Increase perk cost of the m4 firefly

[stodd]

I think the perk cost of the m4 should be increased,as it is now it costs around 5 or 6 I think. I think it should be increased to ecleast 9 or 10.

reason's why:   It can absorb several hits if you dont hit it in the exact right spot esecially the turret. Its camouflage blends in with the tree's so good sometimes it makes it extremely hard to see,it moves its turret faster then pnzr.  Compared to the tiger which costs  around 30 I think,the m4 can kill it with 1 shot in the front while the tigr rounds often bounce off or are absorbed by the m4. That is just my experience as I use the tigr alot and fight m4's alot.

So what do ya think?

*edit*
Tour 99 late war arena
Sherman VC has 1316 Kills of Tiger I
Tiger I has 1540 Kills of Sherman VC
thats only a 1.17 kill death ratio for tigr and the tigr costs about 5 times more perks then the m4.

[Lusche]

I hardly have a opnion as perks are sooo easy to get since the introduction of Wirbelwind (ENY 25, same as Osti)

[Bronk]

I hardly have a opnion as perks are sooo easy to get since the introduction of Wirbelwind (ENY 25, same as Osti)

Seconded
I have found the M-8 is effective as perk collector though.

[VansCrew1]

I say No.

Yes an M4 has an amazing gun, but the armor is not that great.

[uberslet]

I say No.

Yes an M4 has an amazing gun, but the armor is not that great.

its not great if you hit it in right spot, but vans is right.

[moot]

On paper it should lose to the Tiger more than half the time.. But in practice, it's a better place to be than in a Tiger.
The tiger has a slow turret which matters not just against the M4 but also in dispatching faster light GVs, crappy HE ballistics (to damage light GVs), has no smoke ability, and all these handicaps are multiplied by the higher perk cost, which means there'll be multiple M4s for every Tiger, despite the M4 being superior in most circumstances the two meet in, in the game.

[thndregg]

I up a Sherman. I lose a Sherman. I up an M16. I shoot down a plane. I get my teensie perk loss back. Whoopee.

[Rich46yo]

The Sherman is about the only tank I'd bother upping now. At least the only perk tank. Not that I care about GV perks but I just feel the Sherman is a better all around tank then the Tiger.

And the Panzer, T-34 are just fine too.

But the Sherman is a really nice tank in AH.

[Spikes]

I hear they sent groups of Shermans (5 or 6) up against one Tiger...is this true?

[Bronk]

I hear they sent groups of Shermans (5 or 6) up against one Tiger...is this true?

Not the firefly though.

[Saxman]

I up a Sherman and I nail an M8 in his turret and he doesn't even flinch. The M8 then hits me once in the front armor and I blow up.

[moot]

I've had M8s take true hit sprites from M4 HE shells in the turret and front armor, near flat angle.. That was odd too.

[AAolds]

Increasing the perk on the M4 and the Wirble would be a good idea, but doubtful such shall occur.

[BaldEagl]

Increasing the perk on the M4 and the Wirble would be a good idea, but doubtful such shall occur.

Agreed.  I think both should be perked at about 10 perks.

[stodd]

I've had M8s take true hit sprites from M4 HE shells in the turret and front armor, near flat angle.. That was odd too.

It's not just with m4's, I have bounced many 88mm rounds off m8's before.