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Offline Sikboy

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Re: Now the real election question, can Obama win over McCain
« Reply #45 on: June 04, 2008, 03:49:15 PM »
I thought a Clinton-Obama ticket would be a slam dunk, Obama-Clinton not so much. The Dems will find a way to blow this. I'm not terribly upset with McCain, just wish national health care would stay on the front burner.

There's no way Obama can annoint Clinton as the VP. She'll just Vince Foster him, and take the throne. If I were Obama, I'd watch my back either way.

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Re: Now the real election question, can Obama win over McCain
« Reply #46 on: June 04, 2008, 04:06:04 PM »
A)  Let's see...a guy with (realistically speaking) 150 days actually on the job.....

                                                           vs

B)  A war hero with decades of experience on the job who got the crap beat out of him in the POW camps and he coudln't fight back...and instead of coming back and turning his knowledge & experience into bigh money somewhere he instead went back to serving his country, and then gets the nod to be a country's chief executive?

If you were the CEO---having read the resumes and done the seen the interviews over the last 6 months....


Who has more experience?
Who has more character?
Who would you want to be commander-in-chief in time of war?


No Brainer.


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Re: Now the real election question, can Obama win over McCain
« Reply #47 on: June 04, 2008, 04:11:47 PM »
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The question is simple: Can Obama win against McCain?

Yep and I predict will win.
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Re: Now the real election question, can Obama win over McCain
« Reply #48 on: June 04, 2008, 04:13:44 PM »
A)  Let's see...a guy with (realistically speaking) 150 days actually on the job.....

                                                           vs

B)  A war hero with decades of experience on the job who got the crap beat out of him in the POW camps and he coudln't fight back...and instead of coming back and turning his knowledge & experience into bigh money somewhere he instead went back to serving his country, and then gets the nod to be a country's chief executive?

If you were the CEO---having read the resumes and done the seen the interviews over the last 6 months....


Who has more experience?
Who has more character?
Who would you want to be commander-in-chief in time of war?


No Brainer.


ROX


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Offline Eagler

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Re: Now the real election question, can Obama win over McCain
« Reply #49 on: June 04, 2008, 04:14:46 PM »
what ROX said

problem is many voters do not think that deeply, they are too young or stupid or both
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Re: Now the real election question, can Obama win over McCain
« Reply #50 on: June 04, 2008, 04:35:47 PM »
I don't understand how there isn't a single candidate banging hard at the drum of what it really means to be a lean mean american to put people back on track from their own sense of what's Right, rather than appealing to mindless masses of feel good lemmings by harping on about some promised-land "change" and promising more big government.

Like egging a bull on vs. riding a donkey with a carrot hanging in its face.  Nothing good is going to happen or "change", so long as people expect the govt to do things for them, rather than them working for themselves and in effect rise the country.  In fact, the more people are left to being soft-arsed and uneducated (education doesn't have to be elite.. it just has to be thorough) and hungry only for "help" to "change", etc, and the more govt is made to cater to that sort of mediocre expectations, the more it's going to keep getting more and more stuck in mud.
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Re: Now the real election question, can Obama win over McCain
« Reply #51 on: June 04, 2008, 05:57:01 PM »
Obama needs a running mate like ... John Kerry.... yeah that's the ticket.

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Re: Now the real election question, can Obama win over McCain
« Reply #52 on: June 04, 2008, 06:19:09 PM »

No Brainer.


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Hence why Obama will win.
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Re: Now the real election question, can Obama win over McCain
« Reply #53 on: June 04, 2008, 09:07:05 PM »
so long as people expect the govt to do things for them,

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Re: Now the real election question, can Obama win over McCain
« Reply #54 on: June 04, 2008, 09:46:03 PM »
Obama is not electible.

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Re: Now the real election question, can Obama win over McCain
« Reply #55 on: June 04, 2008, 10:11:39 PM »
Yet there are enough ignorant sheep listening to his "hope for change" garbage that he might actually get elected. I simply hope that these sheep are the same type who are too lazy to vote.
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Re: Now the real election question, can Obama win over McCain
« Reply #56 on: June 04, 2008, 10:38:24 PM »
A)  Let's see...a guy with (realistically speaking) 150 days actually on the job.....

                                                           vs

B)  A war hero with decades of experience on the job who got the crap beat out of him in the POW camps and he coudln't fight back...and instead of coming back and turning his knowledge & experience into bigh money somewhere he instead went back to serving his country, and then gets the nod to be a country's chief executive?

If you were the CEO---having read the resumes and done the seen the interviews over the last 6 months....


Who has more experience?
Who has more character?
Who would you want to be commander-in-chief in time of war?


No Brainer.


ROX


I have to totally agree with ROX. I'm going to Navy boot camp on November 26 and by the time I get there and out we will have our new president and I don't want to be serving in our military with someone who probably has never even shot a gun or seen anykind of action. To me McCain is the best choice because he has war experiance and he knows what soldiers want and what to do to win this war. If people say Iraq is so much like Vietnam then don't you want someone who was there and would know how to counter that?? 
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Re: Now the real election question, can Obama win over McCain
« Reply #57 on: June 04, 2008, 10:42:44 PM »
Wow, 4 pages in 3 hours? Hot topic, here.

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McCain is far less liberal than osama.   I think he will win.  I think osama lost the white guilt vote and the woman vote.   Women are all for things like afirmative action and extra rights so long as it is them that are getting the lions share.. they are not happy when they get passed over by a man..  any color or shade of man.

As for McCain?  He did have a very good interview in the "Rifleman" (NRA).. he seemed very solid on the second at least.

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You know, that's a good point, Lasz. However, Obama might be thinking the same; He can salvage some of that vote if he takes Hillary for a VP, and if she talks' about another run at the Presidency in the future. It really depends' on her own ego, which seems to be driving everything about her campaign.

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Re: Now the real election question, can Obama win over McCain
« Reply #58 on: June 04, 2008, 10:43:36 PM »
I have to totally agree with ROX. I'm going to Navy boot camp on November 26 and by the time I get there and out we will have our new president and I don't want to be serving in our military with someone who probably has never even shot a gun or seen anykind of action. To me McCain is the best choice because he has war experiance and he knows what soldiers want and what to do to win this war. If people say Iraq is so much like Vietnam then don't you want someone who was there and would know how to counter that?? 


You just described GWB jr. He couldn't even stay in the Air guard. Shameful, considering his fathers' service in the Navy in WWII...
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Re: Now the real election question, can Obama win over McCain
« Reply #59 on: June 04, 2008, 10:44:16 PM »
I admit I'll be stunned if Obama picks Hillary as veep candidate.  He's begging to add another tally to the clinton body count if he does.