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Offline Banshee7

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Re: Too much water on Aces High maps
« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2008, 12:23:28 PM »
 If you go back and read the ENTIRE post, you'll find i quoted famous aces, (REAL ACES) who said precisely the same thing.  Dog Fighting is a manuever of LAST RESORT.  Used by wreckless pilots who fail to engage wisely, or are surprised by the enemy.

Yeah..but that's because they only have 1 life to live...how many do we get in AH?
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Re: Too much water on Aces High maps
« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2008, 12:29:44 PM »
Waldren, I think. Not sure if he's a shades, although he does share some annoying traits with a few others. With regards to his complaints about the game in general- yeah, it's mostly rubbish.
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Re: Too much water on Aces High maps
« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2008, 12:35:19 PM »
Waldren, I think.

That would make sense, in every way ;)

And just for the record, waldren hasn't killed me yet... We only met 2 times, and both times he went down.
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Re: Too much water on Aces High maps
« Reply #18 on: June 04, 2008, 01:03:43 PM »
Actually, I think there's not ENOUGH water. The majority of the maps are heavily Euro-centric. Even the "Pacific" maps like NDISLES don't REALLY succeed in the effect.

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Re: Too much water on Aces High maps
« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2008, 01:28:24 PM »
     Lusche.  Please stop posting in this topic.  It's about the amount of sea areas on MA maps.  You're trying to highjack the subject and turn it into a post about "Lusche and his inflated opinion of dog fighting" as a strategy.  For someone who claims to know so much about AH, you don't seem to realize that name calling and off topic comments are both violations of the forum format.
      As for the intended topic, the world is indeed made up of 75% water.  But the land in the world is not made up 90% of little islands.  Take a look at a globe.  You'll see what i mean.  Major air engagements were indeed fought over the waters of the South Pacific.  They were also fought over Africa, Asia and Europe.  In fact, i would venture to say the number of planes that fought in the Pacific Theatre of WWII would be "dwarfed" by the number of planes that fought over dry land.  So in my opinion, unless you're talking about another planet...  or an alternate history, the sea based maps in the MA we so frequently have to play on are poor (at best very limited) representations of the map designs possible.
       It takes you 2 years to figure something out ?  Maybe you should stick with that.  I mark a trail when i first walk into a forest so i don't get confused by all the trees.  Saves alot of time and discomfort.   But i understand the learning curve can be brutal for some people, i think AH will eventually adopt MA maps with far less water on them.  It only makes sense.  It's a game about aircraft, not navies.    
    

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Re: Too much water on Aces High maps
« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2008, 01:34:54 PM »
    Lusche.  (...)  You're trying to highjack the subject and turn it into a post about "Lusche and his inflated opinion of dog fighting"

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Re: Too much water on Aces High maps
« Reply #21 on: June 04, 2008, 01:49:28 PM »
   
       It takes you 2 years to figure something out ?  Maybe you should stick with that.  I mark a trail when i first walk into a forest so i don't get confused by all the trees.  Saves alot of time and discomfort.   But i understand the learning curve can be brutal for some people, i think AH will eventually adopt MA maps with far less water on them.  It only makes sense.  It's a game about aircraft, not navies.    
    

Proof positive.

After you've been around long enough, you'll realize there are other maps we've had ( AKDessert, Infinity, .. um..er.. another one that the name escapes me ) that have almost no water on them. 

So.. yes.. instead of roaring off proclaiming the wrongs of the world.. make sure you've seen enough of the world to be able to make an intelligent judgement.

Been here 7 years.. and stuff still changes.

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Re: Too much water on Aces High maps
« Reply #22 on: June 04, 2008, 04:35:21 PM »
Quote from: stephen waldron on May 24, 2008, 03:27:31
 I'm just not a "chaos" and "fun" loving kind'a guy.   I've seen the Elephant.. and I take wargaming VERY SERIOUSLY.

Yeah, in many ways.  :rofl
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Re: Too much water on Aces High maps
« Reply #23 on: June 04, 2008, 05:45:04 PM »
     Lusche..beware the mighty puffer fish!  :D



     Or he'll huff and he'll puff and blow your thread down!  :lol
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Re: Too much water on Aces High maps
« Reply #24 on: June 04, 2008, 06:00:33 PM »
     I mark a trail when i first walk into a forest so i don't get confused by all the trees.  Saves alot of time and discomfort.  
    

I use a compass. And now a GPS. Works in the desert. Works on the water. Never marked a trail. But I grew up deer hunting with all those confusing trees...........


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Re: Too much water on Aces High maps
« Reply #25 on: June 04, 2008, 09:51:59 PM »
     In fact, i would venture to say the number of planes that fought in the Pacific Theatre of WWII would be "dwarfed" by the number of planes that fought over dry land.

Ok just so I'm clear... if a plane takes off over water... but then fights over an island (land) but then goes back and lands at sea is that considered land or water fighting? 
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Re: Too much water on Aces High maps
« Reply #26 on: June 04, 2008, 10:05:16 PM »
I'm curious to see what the effect of a map almost completely made of water would be.  Have many CVs instead of bases, and have only a few islands.  It would be fun at the start, but I think it might end up people swarming one land base with CVs until they get it, and repeating. 

But with all those CVs in the water I can only hope that some epic battle would become of them.
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Re: Too much water on Aces High maps
« Reply #27 on: June 04, 2008, 10:12:22 PM »
Have no land, and CV groups that dont respawn, country with the most CVs left wins :rock :rock
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Re: Too much water on Aces High maps
« Reply #28 on: June 04, 2008, 10:22:22 PM »
You mean something like this?

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Re: Too much water on Aces High maps
« Reply #29 on: June 04, 2008, 10:33:13 PM »
I also hate  the maps with no water. The water adds alot of space to the fight, and if you know what your doing it adds alt as well. Plus going after enemy carrier groups is fun and challenging. Spotting them, calling the location back to squad mates and coordinating an attack are all parts of the game I love.

I say keep the watter. :aok

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