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Re: The most needed aircraft from each country (post opinions)
« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2008, 01:28:09 AM »
Fighter/Attacker
U.S.S.R : LaGG-3
Japanese: KI-43 OSCAR/KI-44 TOJO (both badly)
Germany: ME-410/ JU-87G-1 (Tank Killing Version w/th 37mm cannons)
U.S.A : P-40N Kittyhawk
Britain : Beaufighter
Italy -G.55 Centauro
Romania-IAR-80

Bomber/Attacker
U.S.S.R : Pe-2/TU-2
Japanese: B7A GRACE/D4Y JUDY (both badly)
Germany: DO-217E-5
U.S.A : SB2C Helldiver
Britain: Wellington Mk. III
Italy: Cant Z.1007bis Alcione


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Re: The most needed aircraft from each country (post opinions)
« Reply #16 on: June 05, 2008, 08:03:05 AM »
SuBWaYCH                   Karnak                  Guppy35             Jester

Fighter/Attacker
U.S.S.R : Yak-3             Yak-7                  I-16                   LaGG-3
Japanese: Ki-43/44        Ki-43                    Ki-43                 KI-43  KI-44 TOJO (both badly)
Germany ME-410           Me410                  Me 109E7            ME-410/ JU-87G-1 (2x40mm variant)
U.S.A :  Brewster Buffalo                           P40N                  P-40N
Britain : Beaufighter      Beaufighter             Beaufighter         Beaufighter

Bomber/Attacker
U.S.S.R : Pe-2/Te-2      Pe-2                     Pe-2                  Pe-2/TU-2
Japanese: Betty           D4Y "Judy"/G4M2     Betty (G4m2)      B7A GRACE/D4Y JUDY
Germany: He-111         Ju188A                   He-111              DO-217E-5
U.S.A : A-26               TBD Devastator        B-17F               SB2C Helldiver
Italy                          S.M.79-II                 SM-79              Cant Z.1007bis Alcione                                    UK:                           Wellington B.Mk III    Wellington          Wellington
     

My apologies in advance if there are any formating errors, or mistakes.

First choice I have to agree on the Yak3.
Across the board, ki-43, agree, 44 would be a plus, but 43 first please.
3 out of 4 agree on the  me410, as do I, long overdue.
Beaufighter, absolutely! Long long overdue.

Pe-2 can there be any doubt?
Japanese bomber set is a tough call no matter how you slice it.
Will the G4m2 Betty be flown in the main? Well thats hard to say. Might get some action in early or midwar arena's, and its a sorely missed staple for any pacific based event, from FSO to snapshots.
Do I want a betty worse than  B7A GRACE/D4Y JUDY?
I find I agree with jester, late war carrier attack planes would be a bigger impact over all I think.
Although Ideally I'd love to see all 3, the betty, and Grace, and Judy.
Italy, put the SM79 on the list, but there are others I want first.
And the Wellington would top off the RAF nicely.

The reason I did this was I was amazed at how close those 4 people were on their choices.
4 respected long term, capable pilots with well educated choices.

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Re: The most needed aircraft from each country (post opinions)
« Reply #17 on: June 05, 2008, 08:54:04 AM »

Japanese: B7A GRACE/D4Y JUDY (both badly)

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I'll give you the Judy, but the B7A?!

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105 built. Introduced in 1944 and had no impact on the war whatsoever.

You're kidding me, right? There's other Japanese bombers far, far, far, far, FAR more representative that are needed FIRST. Like...oh...say...the G4M which was the main front-line Japanese bomber for pretty much the entire freakin' war.
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Re: The most needed aircraft from each country (post opinions)
« Reply #18 on: June 05, 2008, 09:01:46 AM »
Fighter/Attacker
U.S.S.R : Yak-3/I16
Japanese: Ki-43 oscar
Germany: Do-217/ JU87 with 40mm x 2
U.S.A : n/a
Britain : Gloster Meteor

Bomber/Attacker
U.S.S.R : Tu-2
Japanese: g4m2 Betty
Germany: He-111
U.S.A : B29   :t
Britain: Mossie variants, TSE TSE 57mm spud gun, and uprated insanely fast bomber variant with 6 eggs and a bombsight (no guns for reduced weight, formation optional)




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Re: The most needed aircraft from each country (post opinions)
« Reply #19 on: June 05, 2008, 09:37:19 AM »
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Japanese: Ki-43/44 (about even)
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The Ki-43 Hayabusa ("Oscar") was the most numerous (5,900+) of all the IJA fighters, and served (well past its prime!) for the entire duration of the war.  IMHO, Aces High should model the K-43-IIb, since that was the most common (2,400+) variant.

The Ki-44 Shoki ("Tojo") ended up being an interim plane, with just over 1,200 produced.  It was replaced as quickly as possible by the Ki-84 Hayate ("Frank"), which Aces High already has.  The Ki-44 is really only a footnote, compared to either the Ki-43 or the Ki-84 (3,500+ produced).


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Re: The most needed aircraft from each country (post opinions)
« Reply #20 on: June 05, 2008, 01:33:09 PM »
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Re: The most needed aircraft from each country (post opinions)
« Reply #21 on: June 05, 2008, 03:35:57 PM »
Fighter/Attack

USA:Brewster Buffalo
Britain:Beaufighter
Italy:G55
Germany:me-410
Russia:Mig 1 or 3
Japan:Ki-43
French:anything that can carry a white flag   :t

Bomber

USA:PBY Catalina
Britain:Handley Page Hampden
Italy: Cant Z.1007 Alcione
Russia:Pe-2
Japan:G4M or H8K "Emily" 5 20mm gunner positions
Germany:He-111 or Do-17

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Re: The most needed aircraft from each country (post opinions)
« Reply #22 on: June 05, 2008, 05:55:13 PM »
410 and 111, k ,  thnx
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Re: The most needed aircraft from each country (post opinions)
« Reply #23 on: June 06, 2008, 08:33:46 AM »
I'll give you the Judy, but the B7A?!

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105 built. Introduced in 1944 and had no impact on the war whatsoever.

You're kidding me, right? There's other Japanese bombers far, far, far, far, FAR more representative that are needed FIRST. Like...oh...say...the G4M which was the main front-line Japanese bomber for pretty much the entire freakin' war.

Nope, I was dead Serious. It comes down to practicallity.

The B5N KATE is pretty much just a "TARGET" unless set in the VERY early arenas - against anything mid to late war it is useless.

The reason I voted for the B7A GRACE over the B6N JILL is it is still faster and has a good armament package - 2x 20mm's forward (JILL has none) and one 13mm MG in the rear cockpit (JILL has the same 7.7mm pop-gun as the KATE). Being better able to defend itself you might actually get more pilots to fly the aircraft rather than it becoming a "Hangar Queen" that only gets flown once and awhile or in specific events.

About the numbers built - in that case - how many MACCHI MC.205 VELTRO's were built that actually saw action? 65 with the Regia Aeronautica before the surrender and maybe 100 more with the Aeronautica Nazionale Repubblicanna. However I see it used pretty regularly in all the arenas where it is available.

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Re: The most needed aircraft from each country (post opinions)
« Reply #24 on: June 06, 2008, 09:49:06 AM »
Planes needed "by country" is too inclusive.  Some countries simply didnt have much to offer.  I will say that France should at least be represented with their best fighter (which saw action and was fielded in at least squad size): the D520.  If rinky-dink Italia can have a couple of planes... then why not France? 

Russia could use a bomber and the Il-4 fits the bill perfectly.

Germany could make use of the Ju-87G quite well.

The UK could make use of a bomber version of the Mossi.

The US could make use of the P40N, the last and best of the Warhawks.  Otherwise.... there are other coutnries that could use more note worthy aircraft and current models that could use correction.

Japan is missing an attack craft worth mentioning (the D3 and B5N rarely make it to target before getting raped), and the Ki-45 "Nick" fits the bill perfectly.  It can do it all (according to sources), but will likely do well in attack roles. 
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Re: The most needed aircraft from each country (post opinions)
« Reply #25 on: June 06, 2008, 12:11:02 PM »
Fighter/Attacker
U.S.S.R : LaGG-3/Mig-3
Japanese: KI-43 OSCAR/Ki-45 Nick
Germany: ME-410/He-219 Uhu
U.S.A : P-61
Britain : Beaufighter
Italy -G.55 Centauro

Bomber/Attacker
U.S.S.R : Pe-2/TU-2
Japanese: G4M Betty
Germany: HE-111
U.S.A : A-26/SB2C Helldiver
Britain: Wellington Mk. III
Italy: Cant Z.1007bis Alcione

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Re: The most needed aircraft from each country (post opinions)
« Reply #26 on: June 06, 2008, 01:35:26 PM »
Fighter:
...Italy: C.200


Bomber:
...Italy: S.M.79-II
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Re: The most needed aircraft from each country (post opinions)
« Reply #27 on: June 06, 2008, 02:02:03 PM »
Interesting I don't see alot of requests for the Mig 3 and none for the HEinkel single eng plywood jet fighter..was it the 163? Halifax is great choice for Brit plane, US could use the A26, 410 for Germany is a good one. How bout a set of the WWII bi-planes for early war? Italy and Germany had a couple of nice ones. The Betty is a great choice for Japan but the fighters listed would all be nice as well. How bout a Fiesler Storch that could carry 3 boxes of supplies? :) Junkers JU 52 for realism in snapshots or whatever...anyway interesting thread and good input.

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Re: The most needed aircraft from each country (post opinions)
« Reply #28 on: June 06, 2008, 02:10:23 PM »
Interesting I don't see alot of requests for the Mig 3
The MiG 3 was a dog. It was a very beautiful aircraft, but it was a lightly armed and un-maneuverable.

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and none for the HEinkel single eng plywood jet fighter..was it the 163?
I don't really think we need any more jets...

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US could use the A26
Pretty far down the list IMO... the US has 8 bombers IIRC, The only other country that comes close is Germany with three.

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How bout a set of the WWII bi-planes for early war? Italy and Germany had a couple of nice ones.
Most bi-planes were used pre-war. I would LOVE the Ar68 and I153 for a Spanish Civil War planeset, but this takes back seat to the original WWII planeset.

The Tante Ju (Aunt Ju- Junkers Ju52/3M) is at the top of my list along with the He111.

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Re: The most needed aircraft from each country (post opinions)
« Reply #29 on: June 06, 2008, 02:58:13 PM »
Man i got my brit bombers mixed up. I meant the Short Stirling. :t