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Offline AVG

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P-40 Cockpit
« on: June 04, 2008, 05:26:17 PM »
Howdy.

I am new to Aces High and was very happy to able to obtain the call sign “AVG.” My uncle was a member of the “American Volunteer Group” (AVG) known as the “Flying Tigers” in China.  He later became one of the members who was instrumental in setting up the Flying Tigers Museum in San Diego, Ca.

I have been flying all available fighters and bombers off line and was truly amazed at many of the life like 3D cockpits in AH.  The P-40B and P-40E, however, are not of the same quality and it my sincere “wish” that the P-40B and P-40E cockpits be upgraded to the same level as the BF109F-4, Spitfire, etc.

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Re: P-40 Cockpit
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2008, 10:51:06 PM »
The P-40B and P-40E, however, are not of the same quality and it my sincere “wish” that the P-40B and P-40E cockpits be upgraded to the same level as the BF109F-4, Spitfire, etc.

HTC is in the process of upgrading all of the 3d plane models. I don't believe the P40's have been upgraded yet.
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Re: P-40 Cockpit
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2008, 11:00:45 PM »
Not to mention it costs money to upgrade this sorta things, and people don't use the P-40E or P-40B much, im guessing they will leave those last for upgrade and do to the other planes being much better liked and used, HTC has no other option but to upgrade the most used and leave the others in the waiting list.  :devil

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Re: P-40 Cockpit
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2008, 10:11:54 AM »
The P40 would be used much more if the P40N model was introduced.  ;)
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Re: P-40 Cockpit
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2008, 10:20:32 AM »
P-40 cockpits are the earliest ones we have in the game. As mentioned, they will be redone (eventually).

Just my luck, I spend months on-and-off working to re-skin the P-40E cockpit and watch, as soon as I get done they'll change it!


P.S. The P-40N wouldn't be TOO much better than what we have now. Apparently our P-40E is modeled as a P-40K. Our P-40E and P-40B in-game have funky curve chart and engine setting relationships, and really don't match up to historical aircraft. Many of these first-generation craft have mixed data, compromises between versions, and so forth. Our typhoon is also a bastardization of different historical versions, if I recall (from past forum discussions)

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Re: P-40 Cockpit
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2008, 12:15:53 PM »
Great first post man!  :aok Welcome to AH!
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Re: P-40 Cockpit
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2008, 12:17:30 PM »
The P40 would be used much more if the P40N model was introduced.  ;)
Yes it would
From wikipedia:
P-40N (manufactured 1943-44), the final production model. The P-40N featured a stretched rear fuselage to counter the torque of the larger, late-war Allison engine, and the rear deck of the cockpit behind the pilot was cut down at a moderate slant to improve rearward visibility. A great deal of work was also done to try and eliminate excess weight to improve the Warhawk's climb rate. Early N production blocks dropped a .50 cal (12.7 mm) gun from each wing, bringing the total back to four; later production blocks reintroduced it after complaints from units in the field. Supplied to Commonwealth air forces as the Kittyhawk Mk IV. A total of 553 P-40Ns were acquired by the Royal Australian Air Force, making it the variant most commonly used by the RAAF. Subvariants of the P-40N ranged widely in specialization from stripped down four-gun "hot rods" which could reach the highest top speeds of any production variant of the P-40 (up to 380 mph), to overweight types with all the extras intended for fighter-bombing or even training missions.
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Re: P-40 Cockpit
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2008, 01:30:22 PM »
P-40 cockpits are the earliest ones we have in the game.

No they are not. There are earlier produced cockpits than the ones in the P-40s in the game.
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Re: P-40 Cockpit
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2008, 02:09:13 PM »
Okay, just for the sake of clarification, they are not chronologically the FIRST cockpit in the game (although I thought they were in the first iteration of AH), but they are in that first-level of detail and quality, (meaning "low" on both accounts)

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Re: P-40 Cockpit
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2008, 02:38:51 PM »
P-40s were actually added relatively late in AH1.  Non-updated aircraft, as I recall it:

AH1 v1.00:

B-26B
C.205
C-47A
N1K2-J

AH1 v1.01:

C.202

AH1 v1.02:

Typhoon Mk Ib

AH1 v1.03:

Panzer IV H?

AH1 v1.04:

Ju88A-4
Lancaster Mk III

AH1 v1.05:

A6M5b
Elco 80' PT-Boat
F6F-5
TBM-5
LVTs

AH1 v1.06:

Yak-9T?
Yak-9U?

AH1 v1.07:

-

AH1 v1.08:

M-8
Me262A
Mosquito Mk VI

AH1 v1.09:

Ki-67
Tiger I?

AH1: v1.10:

A-20G
A6M2
Boston Mk III
D3A1
F4F-4
FM-2
P-40B
P-40E
SBD-5

AH1 v1.11:

B6N2?
Ju87D-3
Me163
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Re: P-40 Cockpit
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2008, 04:58:50 PM »
That can't be right. I've got 1.04 somewhere archived. I believe it has P-40s in it.

Dangit, now I've gotta install it to see!

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Re: P-40 Cockpit
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2008, 05:17:59 PM »
I actually found an archived copy of the patch notes for v1.10 and it listed those aircraft as being added.
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Re: P-40 Cockpit
« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2008, 05:29:24 PM »
That can't be right. I've got 1.04 somewhere archived. I believe it has P-40s in it.

Dangit, now I've gotta install it to see!

Karnak is correct about the P-40. However, there are errors on that list, for example...A6M5b came in 1.03 (with 190A-5 and Yak-9U), Panzer came in 1.02. 1.06 was again one huge update including, for example La-7, Ta-152, 190D-9, P-51B. 1.07 brought the LVTs, IL-2 and KI-61. I also think Tiger came in 1.11. All from my memory, I have to check from AH1 readmes to be sure and I don't have them on this computer...
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Re: P-40 Cockpit
« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2008, 07:20:55 PM »
Yes, there are errors as it was, mostly, just pulled from memory.  I am pretty sure the A6M5b came in v1.05 or v.106 when we got ships.  I also forgot the Ki-61.
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Re: P-40 Cockpit
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2008, 07:13:57 AM »
Just my luck, I spend months on-and-off working to re-skin the P-40E cockpit and watch, as soon as I get done they'll change it!

Krusty, would you post a reply to this thread when you complete the P-40E cockpit?  That would be great.

Thanks,
AVG