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Offline Saxman

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Re: Close Carrier deck......
« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2008, 10:19:51 PM »
Actually, I don't think CVs should be allowed to approach any closer than a sector for shore PERIOD. No fleet commander in his right mind would park his boat that close to any enemy airfield, and it's ridiculous taking off and be taking fire from enemy puffy ack over your own airfield.
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Re: Close Carrier deck......
« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2008, 10:38:19 PM »
Sax, if the VH, ord, and SBs are down, and there's air superiority, the closer the CV is, the stronger the cap on the field..
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Re: Close Carrier deck......
« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2008, 10:39:20 PM »
No fleet commander in his right mind would park his boat that close to any enemy airfield, and it's ridiculous taking off and be taking fire from enemy puffy ack over your own airfield.

That's tactic #1 on Ndisles map in EW. Defending side has one or two players only (so that none can grab a buff from another base), all the islands have no SB, and enemy  CV ack all over the field...
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Re: Close Carrier deck......
« Reply #18 on: June 04, 2008, 11:08:49 PM »
Actually I believe you're incorrect here.  Radar was a valuable tool during surface engagements at night. 
ship to ship radar?
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Re: Close Carrier deck......
« Reply #19 on: June 05, 2008, 06:04:05 AM »
Perhaps the CG commander could designate a waypoint along the plotted course of the CV where the deck is automatically opened.  If an enemy acft comes along and discovers the carrier, the commander could manually open it up.  This way, there's an amount of strategy involved in plotting the CGs course. 

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Re: Close Carrier deck......
« Reply #20 on: June 05, 2008, 06:38:54 AM »
Problem is with the ranking system itself. 

You can have a very low rank by just manipulating the score.   Then think of the chaos of the first few days of the tour when anyone can have a very low rank.  The armchair general will have a field day :D.  Most of these guys think they know exactly what "needs" to be done but have very little skill themselves to actually achieve it, then start cussing everyone out on range when it goes wrong.

I believe the TG should have a commander to be able to close the deck but he would have to remain at the helm and not be manning any guns or be able to fly.  If you have ever played battlestations midway I believe that system would work well with the commander assigning a flight to cap, de-ack, or bomb town then allow them to launch once say 4 slots are filled.  He could also work on the battle damage to help repair the carrier quicker by assigning crew to the appropriate damage.

I dont think HTC would want to re-work the whole ranking/scoring system just so that we have a fair way for wannabee Admirals to play with their bath toys.  Its kinda like the GV guys crying out for more tanks!   Aces High people lets not forget that.  New planes to fill the gaping holes in the planeset.

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Re: Close Carrier deck......
« Reply #21 on: June 05, 2008, 09:49:20 AM »
ship to ship radar?
Absolutely. The US Mk 8 radar introduced in '42-'43 had a max range of 40,000 yards (when mounted 120ft above water). Apparently it could even detect shell splashes out to about 35,000 yards. Kind of a poor man's closed-loop fire control system.
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Re: Close Carrier deck......
« Reply #22 on: June 05, 2008, 10:13:43 AM »
I think HTC could add a new feature of setting up missions for Task Groups.

It would cost a perk price that a squad might want to cough up.

The availability of TGs for missions is displayed when there are no "Admirals" in control of TGs

Once a mission starts, no one can bump it till the mission commander ends the show.

The perk cost for the TG mission can be redeemed by perks gained during the mission.

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Re: Close Carrier deck......
« Reply #23 on: June 05, 2008, 11:47:35 AM »
This was wished before, and that thread stated it would not be a good idea. :salute

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Re: Close Carrier deck......
« Reply #24 on: June 05, 2008, 12:20:57 PM »
Previous thread or not, it is a horrible idea to lock up a country wide resource to a single person's decision making.  With that said I deliver a "NO" to this idea.
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Re: Close Carrier deck......
« Reply #25 on: June 05, 2008, 12:30:49 PM »
Problem is with the ranking system itself. 

You can have a very low rank by just manipulating the score.   Then think of the chaos of the first few days of the tour when anyone can have a very low rank.  The armchair general will have a field day :D.  Most of these guys think they know exactly what "needs" to be done but have very little skill themselves to actually achieve it, then start cussing everyone out on range when it goes wrong.

I can think of one dimwit that was cussing people out for taking off and giving the cv away, only problem was there were already buffs flying over the cv and the dude couldn't avoid the bombs. Of course it was everyone else's fault as he cussed everyone out.

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Re: Close Carrier deck......
« Reply #26 on: June 05, 2008, 01:29:05 PM »
ship to ship radar?

     Was pretty common for the US anyway, heck even PT boats mounted surface radar by
war's end.
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Re: Close Carrier deck......
« Reply #27 on: June 05, 2008, 02:04:02 PM »
dont forget sonar
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Re: Close Carrier deck......
« Reply #28 on: June 05, 2008, 02:09:15 PM »
No, but I think someone on base would notice when theres high explosive shells landing all around them.
I was thinking of something else. Never mind.

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Re: Close Carrier deck......
« Reply #29 on: June 05, 2008, 08:32:25 PM »
Previous thread or not, it is a horrible idea to lock up a country wide resource to a single person's decision making.  With that said I deliver a "NO" to this idea.
Hence reformulation of the wish to: a smaller mission-dedicated CV.
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