FSO is still a one life event!

[Sled]

Or did I miss some new rule change?


Just because fields open for us to let people man the ship guns for the sea battle. Does not mean the FSO is now a "free for all" and you can go and up anything that is available!

 

You only get ONE AC in FSO.


unless it is specifically stated, that your plane, is available for second life. (B5N for example)

Just because the fields will let you up another AC does not mean it is OK to do so. 


(Please note, I am yelling here)


There is no excuse for people doing this, it is the most basic rule of FSO.

I will look at the logs, see how bad it was. I hope most of the offending pilots ditched their AC, when told to.

[33Vortex]

Yeah, saw the logs just now and noted many players upping a 2nd, 3rd even 4 times. 

Please, lock them out of the FSO arena for the remainder of the event. It's the only way people will learn. Better yet, code the life limit into the game.

One guy upped 8 times, I think we have a winner! 

[ghostdancer]

All COs and XOs of the squad need to start relaying the objectives and rules to their squad mates. The rules noted in the objectives specifically mentioned this is a one life event with only two exceptions.

1) B5N2 pilots get a second life.

2) Dead pilots may spawn once in a PT boat for the surface naval battle.

I am willing to overlook those people who spawned in a PT boat twice because this was something new and was a bit awkward (plus at least on the Axis side at fleet C28 there was a bozo on the CA who was firing and killing allied PTs) and their was confusion. But as Sled says when it comes to aircraft second lifes except when specifically noted it is ONE whether the fields are open or not!!!

[Stampf]

The Severest of penalties, and I dont mean points, should be leveled on those who broke the rules.  This has to stop.  And it is getting worse with the growing population, as Sled pointed out in Last nights, State of the FSO address.

It's not just the upping the second fighter that is wrong, but when this happens, escpecially in large numbers, the whole Frame is FUBAR.  There is no way to accurately measure and penalize, the impact these illegal planes are having across the battlefield.  It's more than kills and deaths, as there can be numerous consequential outcomes due directly to these infractions.

Bad form, and a big Boo to the violaters. 

EDIT:  I would add, I bet the vast majority here would prefer playing with 400 guys and gals following the rules, then 500 with people running amok and soiling the Operation.

[Fencer51]

Wow I was expecting a couple people and those to be guys who were new..  There are oodles of people who upped twice, three or even four times.. and they are people who should be able to READ.

[ghostdancer]

I am running filters. There were definitely violations but we need to filter the logs and dig into it. If you weren't on the Axis side you probably don't know or didn't see it .. but a lot of the Axis forces launched from the CVs. There were a lot of crashes, etc. caused by so many planes launching at the CVs.

I am filter the logs now to parse out who crashed, ditched, dumped in the opening 15 window versus who upped when the fields were open for the naval surface action.

Believe me I am not at all happy over this. I added in the naval surface action to give something for dead pilots to do and to test that aspect of the game (DDs having guns) without affect the frame. Many people upped multiple PTs .. I can overlook that since the surface action was awkward and confusing (imo) it being the first time run.

The additional plane launches are a different matter.

[Stampf]

Just give a shout GD, if you need or want help sorting logs, or anything I can do to assist you.

[spit16nooby]

Yeah our squad had some people talking about loadouts and things of that sort for their next flight. Also it stunk that one of our squads leaders had left after he died and the other one was working with talking to other squads we were with and so me and and a few other guys who had done FSO before talked them out of it.

[Bino]

If the AH code gave the CM team more tools, this might not be an issue.  Nudge nudge wink wink.

[Alpo]

I will formally apologize for my misunderstanding of the ONE PT boat rule in the Fleet Battle for my squad (graceful way of saying I just didn't read that line of the rules I guess  ).  No excuse, I missed it, therefore my group didn't know either.

On the other hand, we made it off the CV first time with no issues 


 

[Jester]

Have to agree here 110%

Unless it is a simple mistake like upping at a wrong field, towering, moving to correct field, the re-upping (it happens) then anyone who did not follow the rules and re-upped multiple times should simply have their score set to 0 and that also deducted from their squad score. I image keeping up with the logs and scores are hard enough without these people who most of the time are just flat too damn lazy to read the rules screwing things up for the rest of us.

If these particular people keep screwing up or their squads fail to make sure they know the rules it should be considered banning them from the FSO's till they get their act together.

Agree with someone eles post - most would rather play the FSO's with a core group that follow the rules than with a "Hord" that just causes trouble.

 

[CHAPPY]

My plane leaving chicago was delayed last night so i was not able to make FSO, so my XO was in charge.

This morning i checked logs and noticed that a pilot in my squad upped a few times. 

I am sorry for the incident, this was the first time and last time that pilot will fly with us.

Also he started this after everyone in the squad landed and left for the night.

I understand if you guys kick my squad out of FSO.

CHAPPY
CO- JG2 RICHTHOFEN

[hubsonfire]

I stopped counting at 60. I pity those of you having to go through the logs.

Just read through the rules again. The rules were pretty simple- you couldn't have made it much clearer. One life is one life, one additional life is one additional life. Punish those who won't read or follow the rules, or they will be the only ones left flying these events. Ban them from the rest of the event, and remove all points earned by their squads. Even the logs won't show the effect they have in any engagement. Make some examples.

Oh, and good luck. 

[CHAPPY]

I understand the rules and will take responsibility for my squad.
Let me know if you want me to pull my squad out of FSO or ban my squad.

[trax1]

Yeah things seem to be going from bad to worse since the explosion in the FSO population, I'm seeing more and more MA mentality in FSO as of late.