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Re: Were smaller cal weapons REALLY this bad?
« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2008, 07:09:11 AM »
I took a TBM up for a 'scrap' last night, and with those two .50s, I nailed 3 N1Ks, and 2 TBMs in one sortie. If your shooting is true (And from d150 it was hard for me to miss...) even light MGs will do MAJOR damage.

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Re: Were smaller cal weapons REALLY this bad?
« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2008, 07:23:21 AM »
I took a TBM up for a 'scrap' last night, and with those two .50s, I nailed 3 N1Ks, and 2 TBMs in one sortie.

This never happened.

I can't understand why people try to impress fellow cartoon pilots with made up stories...

And before you now lament "How can you you dare!":

You killed three N1k this tour, but in three different sorties and in three different planes, not in a single TBM sortie.
« Last Edit: June 10, 2008, 07:25:21 AM by Lusche »
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Re: Were smaller cal weapons REALLY this bad?
« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2008, 07:42:42 AM »
This never happened.

I can't understand why people try to impress fellow cartoon pilots with made up stories...

And before you now lament "How can you you dare!":

You killed three N1k this tour, but in three different sorties and in three different planes, not in a single TBM sortie.

Have you checked the stats in time? I can give you the guy's name too.

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Re: Were smaller cal weapons REALLY this bad?
« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2008, 07:49:06 AM »
Have you checked the stats in time? I can give you the guy's name too.

I have checked stats before posting of course.

One kill of N1k in TBM
One kill of N1k in P47D11
One kill of N1k in P47D25
« Last Edit: June 10, 2008, 08:05:47 AM by Lusche »
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Re: Were smaller cal weapons REALLY this bad?
« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2008, 08:29:04 AM »
I have checked stats before posting of course.

One kill of N1k in TBM
One kill of N1k in P47D11
One kill of N1k in P47D25


Where exactly did you get those stats? For some reason on my computer the scores page won't open. My internet crashes anytime I try.

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Re: Were smaller cal weapons REALLY this bad?
« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2008, 08:47:57 AM »
Where exactly did you get those stats? For some reason on my computer the scores page won't open. My internet crashes anytime I try.

Scorepages.
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Player vs Plane. Select Player & Plane
It's nto displayed correctly by default, but when I switch view to "user mode"  in Opera, all tables are shown
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Re: Were smaller cal weapons REALLY this bad?
« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2008, 09:00:12 AM »
This never happened.

I can't understand why people try to impress fellow cartoon pilots with made up stories...

And before you now lament "How can you you dare!":

You killed three N1k this tour, but in three different sorties and in three different planes, not in a single TBM sortie.

 :lol
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Re: Were smaller cal weapons REALLY this bad?
« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2008, 09:08:41 AM »
lmao, really =)

guess what I killed WMlute 2 times in same sortie in his 110G2 and me in yak, next sortie I killed his nik :salute (got 2 times cmustard also lol)

wait...I lied :P

on the topic of small caliber, it really depends where you hit, you can kill 2 fighters (or more, see Fariz) with 100 12mm bullets, just need the bullets concentrated on one point.
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Re: Were smaller cal weapons REALLY this bad?
« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2008, 09:24:40 AM »
Scorepages.
Expanded Stats
Player vs Plane. Select Player & Plane
It's nto displayed correctly by default, but when I switch view to "user mode"  in Opera, all tables are shown

Still crashes my internet trying that...

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Re: Were smaller cal weapons REALLY this bad?
« Reply #24 on: June 10, 2008, 09:43:57 AM »
Still crashes my internet trying that...

Try a different browser maybe ?
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Re: Were smaller cal weapons REALLY this bad?
« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2008, 10:05:24 AM »
I was watching an episode of Dogfights and they showed a 190 shoot every thing it had into a p-47 and the p-47 pilot flew the thing all the way back to base.
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Re: Were smaller cal weapons REALLY this bad?
« Reply #26 on: June 10, 2008, 01:52:47 PM »
I was watching an episode of Dogfights and they showed a 190 shoot every thing it had into a p-47 and the p-47 pilot flew the thing all the way back to base.

we have like 10 threads covering this in here.

EDIT : I've been looking for one, couldn't find it.
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a 190 shoot every thing it had into a p-47
lucky that the 190 was out of 20mm (no cannon impacts were found on the P47 afterwards IIRC), that illustrates the 7mm efficiency.
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Re: Were smaller cal weapons REALLY this bad?
« Reply #27 on: June 11, 2008, 02:09:07 PM »
Stupid me.
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Re: Were smaller cal weapons REALLY this bad?
« Reply #28 on: June 11, 2008, 02:12:26 PM »
Odd.
Worked for me with IE & on Firefox currently.
NVM it doesn't work on Firefox.

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Re: Were smaller cal weapons REALLY this bad?
« Reply #29 on: June 11, 2008, 02:34:34 PM »
we have like 10 threads covering this in here.

EDIT : I've been looking for one, couldn't find it.
you say  lucky that the 190 was out of 20mm (no cannon impacts were found on the P47 afterwards IIRC), that illustrates the 7mm efficiency.


A 20mm is what kept Johnson from bailing out of said plane. A 20mm hit just behind the canopy frame jamming it with the twisted metal. There were numerous 20mm hits to the armor behind his seat as well. He was lucky for the strong airframe and armor plating and that there were not more enemy fighters around. He also had to pull the rudder cables by hand since they had been severed in the hail of bullets. (I think it is this sortie...could be wrong) His book, Thunderbolt!, is a good read.  :salute
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