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Overclocked my vid card
« on: June 08, 2008, 10:00:05 PM »
Just for giggles I overclocked my vid card. Now I'm not a techie so I used the program tuner that came with my ATI 3850. So far it looks great. In a sea of friendlies and one lonesome con I saw him with crystal clarity as I pulled the trigger.

Now I'm going for it and will overclock my e8400. I have never done it. Wish me well.

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Re: Overclocked my vid card
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2008, 07:31:13 AM »
Just curious about this subject as I've never overclocked a vid card. Mine is an EVGA Nividia 7600 GT 256. Default Core & Memory bus settings are 560 & 700. If I wat to OC the card, what increments should I begin with and how far can I go? Are there failsafe measures built into the Nvidia control panel which prevent damage to the GPU? Also, should I do anything about the GPU fan settings? My options are direct or automatic.

My case is an Antec 900 with 1 200 mm fan & 3 120 fans...plenty of breeze to work with...I think  :O


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Re: Overclocked my vid card
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2008, 11:49:19 AM »
Just curious about this subject as I've never overclocked a vid card. Mine is an EVGA Nividia 7600 GT 256. Default Core & Memory bus settings are 560 & 700. If I wat to OC the card, what increments should I begin with and how far can I go? Are there failsafe measures built into the Nvidia control panel which prevent damage to the GPU? Also, should I do anything about the GPU fan settings? My options are direct or automatic.

My case is an Antec 900 with 1 200 mm fan & 3 120 fans...plenty of breeze to work with...I think  :O



I've never OC'd a video card but as with any overclocking, take small steps, monitor temps and assuming things go well you'll reach a point of failure (lock-up/freeze/etc.), at which point you'll want to bump voltage to the component slightly to regain stability.  As you bump voltage, temp increases will become worse, so you need to keep testing and watching these closely.

When you've taken it as far as you dare, you might want to step it back one or two steps but that's up to you.

There are no failsafes in the NVidia control panal.  It's a lot of trial and error, small steps and testing.  You can probably learn more at the EVGA or NVidea forums.  There are forums dedicated to most cards, and I'm sure OCing has been discussed.
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Re: Overclocked my vid card
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2008, 05:24:15 PM »
Just curious about this subject as I've never overclocked a vid card. Mine is an EVGA Nividia 7600 GT 256. Default Core & Memory bus settings are 560 & 700. If I wat to OC the card, what increments should I begin with and how far can I go? Are there failsafe measures built into the Nvidia control panel which prevent damage to the GPU? Also, should I do anything about the GPU fan settings? My options are direct or automatic.

My case is an Antec 900 with 1 200 mm fan & 3 120 fans...plenty of breeze to work with...I think  :O



Baldegle is right. Take small steps. Small steps with a vid card can make a huge difference in good and bad. If you overclock too much you get too much heat and fry the card. Like I said, I'm not a techie. I let the program find the best setting. So far so good.

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Re: Overclocked my vid card
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2008, 06:10:49 PM »
For OCing an NVidia GPU try NTune.  Ntune allows you to OC and test it before applying it.  so, if you go over a safe limit it will give you a "test failed" warning and not apply the settings.

DL Site:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/ntune_5.05.54.00.html

This will also allow OCing of any other NVidia parts.
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Re: Overclocked my vid card
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2008, 07:44:23 PM »
For OCing an NVidia GPU try NTune.  Ntune allows you to OC and test it before applying it.  so, if you go over a safe limit it will give you a "test failed" warning and not apply the settings.

DL Site:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/ntune_5.05.54.00.html

This will also allow OCing of any other NVidia parts.

There is an inherent problem with NTune.  That is, that as you make changes,in this case to your video card, and save them to run as a profile or at boot-up, the NTune performance tools save the entire package and run it (meaning the CPU, GPU and memory settings). 

The problem lies in areas such as variable volting to your CPU depending on load and in variable fan speed settings.  Some motherboards will overide the NTune setting and some will not.  If the motherboard doesn't override, you may not be getting enough voltage to the CPU when it needs it the most, causing a black or grey screen freeze.  If the motherboard does try to overide NTune, it creates a conflict as the two struggle over which has control of the machine.

I had this exact issue when I flashed to a new BIOs a few weeks ago.  I attempted a minor OC on my CPU and every time I booted it was back to stock settings.  NTune was re-setting it.  Then I disabled the NTune profile and tried to accomplish what I wanted using rules but NTune was conflicting with the system creating instability.  In the end I diabled all NTune profiles, rules, etc., set everything up as I wanted in the BIOs, and now only use NTune for the temperature monitors.  My system now runs smooth as silk and cool.

I visit the EVGA and NVidia boards regularily and the majority of opinion is to uninstall NTune performance tools.  Since this is the only way to OC the video card, it's probably why you don't hear of too many people doing it.  OCing is usually reserved for CPU's and memory as those adjustments can be made in the BIOs.

I haven't tried RivaTune so I'm not sure if Riva acts similarily or not but I know it has all the other options that are in NTune.
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Re: Overclocked my vid card
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2008, 08:19:02 PM »
I just start NTune and set clock speeds to a safe level, turn up the fan and save "Apply".  I haven't had any troubles.  Course i haven't tried using "Rules/Profiles".
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Re: Overclocked my vid card
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2008, 11:49:11 PM »
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Re: Overclocked my vid card
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2008, 12:34:32 AM »
8800GT's are dirt cheap.. Best overclock you can make..  ;)

Unfortunately GPU's are not like CPU's - they clock typically only 10 or so percent so the gains will be marginal at best. When you can get a factory 'superclocked' 8800GT for 150 bucks or so, unless you're totally broke I'd go that way.
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Re: Overclocked my vid card
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2008, 07:02:02 AM »
Now I'm going for it and will overclock my e8400. I have never done it. Wish me well.

E8400 is a fantastic chip at 3.6Ghz is a no brainer. Add a high end air cooler and you can be steady at 4.0Ghz with very little effort and temps under stress load under 50deg. Just don't use the Mobo's Auto Voltage for the CPU will always go for higher then you need. Start off around 1.2v and tweek up from there.

Makre sure you use Core Temp and Othos to stress test the CPU after each step, CPUID to check settings. If you have overclocked the GPU use ATI Tool to scan for artifacts.

You'll never really get huge gains out of video cards but CPU's 40-50% isn't hard.

By the way you'd have to be a complete idiot to break a CPU these days, if you don't have enough voltage or boot fails you will always get a F key option to restore defaults from BIOS. Just take it one step at a time, test and take it from there. Wealth of info on the net just read up if your unsure what your doing.


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Re: Overclocked my vid card
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2008, 07:25:55 AM »
E8400 is a fantastic chip at 3.6Ghz is a no brainer. Add a high end air cooler and you can be steady at 4.0Ghz with very little effort and temps under stress load under 50deg. Just don't use the Mobo's Auto Voltage for the CPU will always go for higher then you need. Start off around 1.2v and tweek up from there.

Makre sure you use Core Temp and Othos to stress test the CPU after each step, CPUID to check settings. If you have overclocked the GPU use ATI Tool to scan for artifacts.

You'll never really get huge gains out of video cards but CPU's 40-50% isn't hard.

By the way you'd have to be a complete idiot to break a CPU these days, if you don't have enough voltage or boot fails you will always get a F key option to restore defaults from BIOS. Just take it one step at a time, test and take it from there. Wealth of info on the net just read up if your unsure what your doing.


Have fun.


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Gixer,
Are core temp and othos programs you can download from the internet?

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Re: Overclocked my vid card
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2008, 07:38:29 AM »
Yes everything is free  :t

Orthos
http://sp2004.fre3.com/index.htm

CPU Temp
http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/

For Air cooler go for Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme, after years of mucking around with watercoolers these things rock. Fraction of the price, easy setup and no maintenance.

http://www.thermalright.com/


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Re: Overclocked my vid card
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2008, 09:35:02 AM »
You can also use Prime95 in place of Orthos.  Run small fft's or blend mode.

If you get 2 hours out of it without errors you're likely stable.
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Re: Overclocked my vid card
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2008, 01:25:09 PM »
Heres a vid showing the steps to overclocking it may help you guys.<S>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9wWSBzZ2x8&feature=related