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Re: F4U-4
« Reply #30 on: June 15, 2008, 02:02:13 PM »
I wish they would un-perk  the F4U-4...
And for what reason is it Perked in the first place, in many areas the P-51 out performs it accept in acceleration. There very close in stats in my opinion. :salute

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Very perk worthy.

Bedsides... if it were unperked, the -1, -1A and -1D would see zero use.

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Re: F4U-4
« Reply #31 on: June 15, 2008, 02:06:01 PM »
Ord is a factor in perking, and ENY, because it allows you to kill more stuff, in more ways.  A 1000 lbs of HE is nothing to sneeze at, nevermind two of them and whatever 8 of those rockets amount to.
And a minor pick, but the chog's guns aren't the deadliest package, though nearly so.

You gotta ROF/trajectory/ease of shooting for the average person in there.

And like I say, perking it ensures that it will rarely be used for Jabo anyway. You see the lowest-perked plane, the C-hog used for Jabo a little, the 4-Hog more rarely, the Tempest almost never.

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Re: F4U-4
« Reply #32 on: June 15, 2008, 02:28:16 PM »
Mossie beats the chog as a gun package..  In pretty much all aspects except maybe stability/agility of the gun platform, and most players rarely exploit them that much.

Ground attack might be more risky, but that risk is reduced about as much as the risk of dying because of the extra safety in superior performance the -4 gives you.
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Re: F4U-4
« Reply #33 on: June 15, 2008, 02:41:46 PM »
Unperk the F4u-4 and perk the La7.  Fair trade.
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Re: F4U-4
« Reply #34 on: June 15, 2008, 03:22:22 PM »
Im not saying unperk the Fu-4. But if it was unperked I'd still fly the D as my main ord dropper. They say the FU-4 has almost the same fuel duration with its built in tanks but it sure seems different to me. The full fuel option on the D seems to last a lot longer then the full fuel on the perked 4. Sure you can take a spare tank but then you have to leave ords off.

Generally tho if the 4 was unperked you'd see far less use of the other corsair models. Personaly I consider an F4U-4 as a far more dangerous adversary then an LA-7 and far more deserving of being perked. But all the Corsairs are almost spooky with the great handling characteristics at very high speeds in dives. Ive gotten myself into trouble changing up from a Corsair to a P-38 to deliver ords and forgetting to change my dive profiles. Most of all in launching rockets. With the Corsairs you almost couldnt go to fast even if you try.
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Re: F4U-4
« Reply #35 on: June 15, 2008, 07:44:50 PM »
Also, keep in mind...the F4U-4 and F4U-1D have the same ord loadout (2x 1000lb bombs, and 8 rockets) as a heavy load...and the F4U-4 is better than the F4U-1D in all aspects...
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Re: F4U-4
« Reply #36 on: June 15, 2008, 10:46:42 PM »
Mossie beats the chog as a gun package..  In pretty much all aspects except maybe stability/agility of the gun platform, and most players rarely exploit them that much.

Ground attack might be more risky, but that risk is reduced about as much as the risk of dying because of the extra safety in superior performance the -4 gives you.
The F4U-1C is faster, rolls better, turns better, is less vulnerable to pilot wounds, has more ammo and carries a heavier warload than does the Mosquito.

Mosquito climbs better, is tougher and has centerline mounted guns.
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Re: F4U-4
« Reply #37 on: June 16, 2008, 01:09:32 AM »
I was saying strictly from a gunning standpoint.  I didn't think the mossie had less ammo than the chog.  Centered 20mm's (and +4x303 to a certain degree) certainly reduces the amount of ammo used to kill, though.
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Re: F4U-4
« Reply #38 on: June 16, 2008, 01:23:46 AM »
Im not saying unperk the Fu-4. But if it was unperked I'd still fly the D as my main ord dropper. They say the FU-4 has almost the same fuel duration with its built in tanks but it sure seems different to me. The full fuel option on the D seems to last a lot longer then the full fuel on the perked 4. Sure you can take a spare tank but then you have to leave ords off.

Generally tho if the 4 was unperked you'd see far less use of the other corsair models. Personaly I consider an F4U-4 as a far more dangerous adversary then an LA-7 and far more deserving of being perked. But all the Corsairs are almost spooky with the great handling characteristics at very high speeds in dives. Ive gotten myself into trouble changing up from a Corsair to a P-38 to deliver ords and forgetting to change my dive profiles. Most of all in launching rockets. With the Corsairs you almost couldnt go to fast even if you try.

What do you mean by dive profiles?
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Re: F4U-4
« Reply #39 on: June 16, 2008, 06:00:40 AM »
What do you mean by dive profiles?

Dive speed and angles, since they both go together. Dive to much in a Corsair, and then forget to change up in a 38, and you'll find yourself with a dead stick and the ground coming up awfully fast. The Corsair loves speed much more then the P-38 does, tho I'd still rate the 38 as a fine dive bomber/rocket platform. You just have to pay attention to your speeds and angles more, and, use a dive brake.

Actually I rather love the D-Hog. Its my favorite corsair.
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Re: F4U-4
« Reply #40 on: June 16, 2008, 01:16:35 PM »
Dive speed and angles, since they both go together. Dive to much in a Corsair, and then forget to change up in a 38, and you'll find yourself with a dead stick and the ground coming up awfully fast. The Corsair loves speed much more then the P-38 does, tho I'd still rate the 38 as a fine dive bomber/rocket platform. You just have to pay attention to your speeds and angles more, and, use a dive brake.

Actually I rather love the D-Hog. Its my favorite corsair.

Ohh, I see what your saying...Another thing you can try in the 38 is if your comming from high altitudes is skidding it with rudder, I use that alot in the P-38 while dive bombing.
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Re: F4U-4
« Reply #41 on: June 16, 2008, 04:21:00 PM »
Ohh, I see what your saying...Another thing you can try in the 38 is if your comming from high altitudes is skidding it with rudder, I use that alot in the P-38 while dive bombing.

Yeah I use it as well, and it is helpful. The problem is with the P-38 is you can find yourself in trouble AFTER youve passed the point of being able to do anything about it. You can come in trimmed, not getting compression shudders, and still be going fast enough to dead stick without being able to pull out. This is actually even worse the shuddering cause with the vibrations they at least give you warning.

And Im not even calling the 38 a bad bombing platform. Its actually quite a good one. But you do have to handle it different then the other Yank platforms.

Actually these little differences they've written into the program, between airplanes, are variations that help make the game so cool. And the perked Corsair is just awesome in a high speed dive. All of them are actually.
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Re: F4U-4
« Reply #42 on: June 16, 2008, 06:25:42 PM »
Note: If droping ords with a 38 use the L model.   Srcub off speed before the drop, toggle off combat trim and engage dive recovery flaps.  Use trim to help pull out if needed.
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Re: F4U-4
« Reply #43 on: June 17, 2008, 05:44:25 AM »
Dive speed and angles, since they both go together. Dive to much in a Corsair, and then forget to change up in a 38, and you'll find yourself with a dead stick and the ground coming up awfully fast. The Corsair loves speed much more then the P-38 does, tho I'd still rate the 38 as a fine dive bomber/rocket platform. You just have to pay attention to your speeds and angles more, and, use a dive brake.

Actually I rather love the D-Hog. Its my favorite corsair.

D-Hog, C-Hog, and the -4 Hog are mine. Mainly cuz they can carry a real ord package.
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Re: F4U-4
« Reply #44 on: June 17, 2008, 07:45:39 AM »
It is absolutly the best prop plane in the game, if not the best plane in the game. Even a Dhog can out turn a spixteen, in a couple of turns. the U4 can do circles around the Dhog so that will tell ou how good the U4 is.....  :noid
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