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Offline BaDkaRmA158Th

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Re: have you ran away from a fight? (speak the truth)
« Reply #30 on: June 16, 2008, 05:00:14 AM »
Dick bong got it right

No parts = home
No ammo = no kill + home
No fuel = ground sucks yo', im goin' home.

Period.

Everything else is a fight fest, no runing.
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Re: have you ran away from a fight? (speak the truth)
« Reply #31 on: June 16, 2008, 05:01:54 AM »
I always run from fights, just depends whats going on. If I'm in a Jug and there's a spitty on my 6, I'll run, if he calls me a running dweeb, then I'll respond "DAMN RIGHT" got into the same argument with Karaya, but I'm bearly able to fly now, still not used to the new joystick settings (I stall alot more)

You overshot your attempted pick on me and ran from my Ki-61 (while I was trying to clear a friendly).   There were NOT 3 cons on you, just me.   After a minute of chasing your Spit 8, I pulled off.   You IMMEDIATELY piled went to a friendly who was already in a 1 vs 1.   Filth shot you down.

Pull out all of the "I let someone use my joystick" excuses you want.   I realize I'm not that good since I don't have my "Tour Start" in my signature.   
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Re: have you ran away from a fight? (speak the truth)
« Reply #32 on: June 16, 2008, 05:41:02 AM »
I'm usually in the slowest plane so running is not an option for me. I stay, fight, and most often die. Every once in a while I surprise even myself and survive to land. :O
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Re: have you ran away from a fight? (speak the truth)
« Reply #33 on: June 16, 2008, 05:43:33 AM »
yes.
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Re: have you ran away from a fight? (speak the truth)
« Reply #34 on: June 16, 2008, 05:45:04 AM »
When I was flying bombers I could always tell guys with kills to land. First they'd try sneaking up, just in case I had bombers in auto and was away from my puter. Then after the first spritz they would turn on a dime and I could time their landing by looking at the closest base. Course there are a few dedicated buff hunters I wished I could have ran from. :uhoh

Ive had fighters run from 1 on 1s all the time. Its disgusting really. To see a FW-run90, runstang, or runphoon, make one vulch run and then high tail it from a 1 on 1. There are a few guys, I wont name, that show up at vulches and who disappear when the dar starts to even. Score 'hoe's. Everyone of them.

My big thing is this. You aren't going to learn nothing by running. I already know how to run, knew it before I played the game. Sure if the odds are stacked against you but never from a 1 on 1 or even 2 on 1. The other day I was in a LA and could have run from a 3 on 1 but instead turned and fought 3 slower fighters. I ended up killing 1, running another into water, and flew well until the 3rd got me. All in all very educational, I learned to use their greed against them. And I was glad I didn't run.

Ive noticed that many of the runners are also stick stir'ers.
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Re: have you ran away from a fight? (speak the truth)
« Reply #35 on: June 16, 2008, 07:08:38 AM »
I Make it a priority to run down 190s and 51's now - one thing I found funny is I actually catch 51's since they do tend to dogfight or try too -
however 190s just RUN.


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Re: have you ran away from a fight? (speak the truth)
« Reply #36 on: June 16, 2008, 07:43:22 AM »
You overshot your attempted pick on me and ran from my Ki-61 (while I was trying to clear a friendly).   There were NOT 3 cons on you, just me.   After a minute of chasing your Spit 8, I pulled off.   You IMMEDIATELY piled went to a friendly who was already in a 1 vs 1.   Filth shot you down.

Pull out all of the "I let someone use my joystick" excuses you want.   I realize I'm not that good since I don't have my "Tour Start" in my signature.   


Hey, I didn't let anybody use my joystick. I had gone to the TA earlier to work on my overshoots, the trainer had me adjust some settings (stall limiter and a few other things) and I'm still adjusting to it. So quit crying and suck it up you big baby. How about you go LOOK for a fight. Dont expect them to come to you. I saw you, an La-7, and  another spitty on me, I did what anybody else woulda done, I ran, eventually, the other 2 pulled off, but you were still 600 away from me, I couldnt do anything (still working on the rolling scissors overshoot) Instead of being mature and friendly about it, you had to respond to it in an immature way.

So instead of a usual "you ran from me, but I'll get ya eventually"  you gave me a "WAHH WAHH, 1PLUS TRIED TO PICK ME AND RAN, I'M GONNA GO CRY ON 200 AND ON TEH BOARDS AND BE A sweetheart ABOUT IT!!!! SQUEAK SQUEAK SQUEAK SQUEAK"

I usually take a friendly approach on 200, country, on the boards, and in real life. I was friendly about it the whole time, you just had to do this.

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Re: have you ran away from a fight? (speak the truth)
« Reply #37 on: June 16, 2008, 07:54:18 AM »
To me kills are not kills if I cannot land them. I engage and disengage constantly. Advantage through SA is what I seek, but I NEED them kills too, not just flying around safely. When I get cornered and outnumbered I brawl it out with them until I die, find a way to disengage or gain back the advantage. However, I do not whine about it. It is my own mistake if I put myself into a bad position or lose my SA.

So called "fair or even fights" or 1-on-1:s in equal planes are NOT what I am actively looking for. To me they are like penalty shoot-outs whereas I enjoy the actual game with surprises and variable odds. I personally find this game more challenging and fun when trying to follow the old saying:
"A fighter pilot uses superior judgment to stay out of situations where he would have to rely on superior skill." To me the fight is on already before I can see the dots or icons.

If I am alone above 5 enemies, I try to kill them all one by one. If I am below them, I run ... and maybe gain the advantage on the last one or two chasers.

I will certainly leave friendlies to cope on their own if they are clearly suicidal or cannot grasp how to help me to help them (e.g. drag their tailing enemies to my face instead of offering their tails to me).

What is best in this game, is that we all can pretty much decide how we want to play it. If only people could allow the same decision to others as well.


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Re: have you ran away from a fight? (speak the truth)
« Reply #38 on: June 16, 2008, 08:30:35 AM »
Blauk sums it up pretty well for me, except that I'll add that I don't get near as much enjoyment out of dying with 5 kills than I do out of playing to the limit of my abilities and landing a sortie (even if I land no kills).

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Re: have you ran away from a fight? (speak the truth)
« Reply #39 on: June 16, 2008, 09:10:18 AM »
I have fled many a fight and left my wingman to die just because it amuses me.

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Re: have you ran away from a fight? (speak the truth)
« Reply #40 on: June 16, 2008, 09:19:52 AM »
   Have you ever ran away from a fight?

Yes, but in my own defense I must say she was much bigger than me.
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Re: have you ran away from a fight? (speak the truth)
« Reply #41 on: June 16, 2008, 09:37:28 AM »
   I realize I'm not that good since I don't have my "Tour Start" in my signature.   


Is that what all the cool kids are doing these days? :D

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Re: have you ran away from a fight? (speak the truth)
« Reply #42 on: June 16, 2008, 09:43:07 AM »
To me kills are not kills if I cannot land them. I engage and disengage constantly. Advantage through SA is what I seek, but I NEED them kills too, not just flying around safely. When I get cornered and outnumbered I brawl it out with them until I die, find a way to disengage or gain back the advantage. However, I do not whine about it. It is my own mistake if I put myself into a bad position or lose my SA.

So called "fair or even fights" or 1-on-1:s in equal planes are NOT what I am actively looking for. To me they are like penalty shoot-outs whereas I enjoy the actual game with surprises and variable odds. I personally find this game more challenging and fun when trying to follow the old saying:
"A fighter pilot uses superior judgment to stay out of situations where he would have to rely on superior skill." To me the fight is on already before I can see the dots or icons.

If I am alone above 5 enemies, I try to kill them all one by one. If I am below them, I run ... and maybe gain the advantage on the last one or two chasers.

I will certainly leave friendlies to cope on their own if they are clearly suicidal or cannot grasp how to help me to help them (e.g. drag their tailing enemies to my face instead of offering their tails to me).

What is best in this game, is that we all can pretty much decide how we want to play it. If only people could allow the same decision to others as well.


This guy actually gets it. Air combat when done well is a symphony of cerebral exercise. There's occassional times to fight like a cornered, rabid, pit bull and there's times to surgically extract and re-insert yourself into the fight for maximum effectiveness. An intelligent and disciplined pilot should not find himself in a predicament where his only option is to fight at a severe disadvantage or die very often. Killing people who, "Fly with their pants down around their ankles" is rather simple for the thinking pilot. They aren't proving anything by flying that way other than they are willing to spend 10 minutes of their life getting a new plane to the fight.
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Re: have you ran away from a fight? (speak the truth)
« Reply #43 on: June 16, 2008, 10:24:51 AM »
To me kills are not kills if I cannot land them. I engage and disengage constantly. Advantage through SA is what I seek, but I NEED them kills too, not just flying around safely. When I get cornered and outnumbered I brawl it out with them until I die, find a way to disengage or gain back the advantage. However, I do not whine about it. It is my own mistake if I put myself into a bad position or lose my SA.

So called "fair or even fights" or 1-on-1:s in equal planes are NOT what I am actively looking for. To me they are like penalty shoot-outs whereas I enjoy the actual game with surprises and variable odds. I personally find this game more challenging and fun when trying to follow the old saying:
"A fighter pilot uses superior judgment to stay out of situations where he would have to rely on superior skill." To me the fight is on already before I can see the dots or icons.

If I am alone above 5 enemies, I try to kill them all one by one. If I am below them, I run ... and maybe gain the advantage on the last one or two chasers.

I will certainly leave friendlies to cope on their own if they are clearly suicidal or cannot grasp how to help me to help them (e.g. drag their tailing enemies to my face instead of offering their tails to me).

What is best in this game, is that we all can pretty much decide how we want to play it. If only people could allow the same decision to others as well.


Well said Blauk.

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Re: have you ran away from a fight? (speak the truth)
« Reply #44 on: June 16, 2008, 10:28:39 AM »
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