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Re: Obama a Racist ?
« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2008, 07:53:10 AM »
"earlier in my college career, there was no doubt in my mind that as a memner of the black community i was somehow obligated to this community and would utiliize all of my present and future resources to benefit this community first and foremost." 
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Re: Obama a Racist ?
« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2008, 07:53:47 AM »
I do believe that like most negros.. or people who claim that race..  osamabama is a racist... not because of the speech per se tho.

Cosby did the right thing.. I would say that made cosby a great example for negos and a great negro leader.   osamabama, if he kept giving speeches like the one he just gave could be a fair to good negro leader..   That is not what I want in a POTUS..  I want one that is color blind.    He is not color blind.   Nor is cosby.   Cosby wants to help his people who are.. in dire straits of their own making and really do need that kind of help.   I salute him but...  He is not a leader for everyone.

And that is the problem.   I think osamabama can't get past race.   I think he is in denial and even lying (as with the rev wright) about it at times.   He sees everything through a distorted racist view point.. Not what I want for the POTUS.

I think that is why he is such a liberal socialist... some come at the liberal socialism thing from a personal guilt issue like the rich ones.... some come at it from being failures in life... some come at it from the angle of explaining why their group is doing so poorly.   osamabama comes at it from the racist angle.. He sees racism everywhere.   Those who feel victimized by racism that they feel is all around them and holding them or their people back invariably are or become racists themselves.

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Re: Obama a Racist ?
« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2008, 07:55:15 AM »
You know socialism/marxism/communism has never worked in history?  And that democracies and republics fail after more than 50% of the nation stops working?  :aok
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Re: Obama a Racist ?
« Reply #18 on: June 16, 2008, 07:57:24 AM »
bj....that's just the introduction to a thesis.  Michelle was merely setting up the central theme.  She's basically making the statement that bias may exist on the Princeton campus, and that bias may effect or change the attitudes of black students toward poor blacks.  Variables of all types and empirical evidence would be discussed by the main body of the thesis.

On the other hand, mt, the question that popped into my mind as I read this was, "This is what passes for a thesis at Princeton?!"  While the main body of the thesis was not presented, I think her attempts at finding empirical evidence to support her contentions would be problematic at best.  In addition, I found her literary style to be plodding and pedantic.  

Her concern seemed to be that blacks who attended Princeton might be changed by the bias inherent in the faculty and the student body.  That change would manifest itself in an increased callousness toward lower-class blacks.  At least that's my take on it.  I found the entire premise to be flawed, if for no other reason than no student completes a four year stint in college without being changed in some way.  Yet, why would I lose all interest in poor, lower-class whites?  I have no way of proving it, but I doubt that most people would so readily turn their backs on those less fortunates within their own ethnic groups.

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Re: Obama a Racist ?
« Reply #19 on: June 16, 2008, 07:58:04 AM »
Yikes..  didn't see 88's post..

If that is a quote from osambama then that is the one..   That is the rossetta stone for understanding the guy and the exact reason why he should never be in a position of power.    That is the definitive reason that he should not be POTUS.

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Re: Obama a Racist ?
« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2008, 08:06:26 AM »
No lazs that quote is from Mrs. Obama's college thesis.

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Re: Obama a Racist ?
« Reply #21 on: June 16, 2008, 08:10:03 AM »
Yikes..  didn't see 88's post..

If that is a quote from osambama then that is the one..   That is the rossetta stone for understanding the guy and the exact reason why he should never be in a position of power.    That is the definitive reason that he should not be POTUS.

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that is a quote from the opening paragraphs of his wife's thesis at princeton.  bj posted it earlier.

still reading it.

it's in PDF format so i am having to type out quotations and check them twice to make sure that i am copying them correctly.

not a fan of this woman so far.  

it's first tone is one of instant separation.

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Re: Obama a Racist ?
« Reply #22 on: June 16, 2008, 08:13:49 AM »
She goes on to write in the same section of the thesis "At this time, however, it is conceivable that my 4 years of exposure to a predominately white ivy league university has instilled within me certain conservative values."

I suggest you read it before passing judgement.

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« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2008, 08:21:47 AM »
thus i said, "so far"

relax man. 

geesh.

i'm one of the few surviving people on this board willing to actually read the thing.

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Re: Obama a Racist ?
« Reply #24 on: June 16, 2008, 08:27:56 AM »
By the way, in college I was a raging conservative who campaigned for Anderson in 1980. None of us with any mileage can say we are the same as we were in our early 20's.

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« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2008, 08:30:37 AM »
anderson?!

wouldn't that have made you more of a "raging lunatic"

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sorry mt.  couldn't resist that one.

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Re: Obama a Racist ?
« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2008, 08:56:21 AM »
since osamabama says that his wife is his closest advisor and confidant..   I would think that anything she said.. especially as outrageous and racist as this..  would be fair game.

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Re: Obama a Racist ?
« Reply #27 on: June 16, 2008, 09:15:20 AM »
since osamabama says that his wife is his closest advisor and confidant..   I would think that anything she said.. especially as outrageous and racist as this..  would be fair game.

lazs

here is the link lasz.  hope you'll get a chance to read it.

http://www.dontvoteobama.net/adobe/michelle%20Obama%20thesis%20part%201.pdf
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Re: Obama a Racist ?
« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2008, 09:20:47 AM »
Its not only black men who dont properly care their children---child neglect knows no boundaries in terms of race or gender for that matter.

they are, however the majority.
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Re: Obama a Racist ?
« Reply #29 on: June 16, 2008, 10:04:33 AM »
The majority of what?