Obama a Racist ?

[slipknot]

The majority of what?

He means to say that black men comprise the majority of absentee/negligent fathers out there.

Not sure how true this is, given population ratios. They certainly make up more than their share... I know this from all the rap music I listen to, and the shows I watch on WB.

[CAP1]

He means to say that black men comprise the majority of absentee/negligent fathers out there.

Not sure how true this is, given population ratios. They certainly make up more than their share... I know this from all the rap music I listen to, and the shows I watch on WB.

thanks for that correction..i guess i should've made that more clear.
i (believe?) i know it from what i see around where i live. don't get me wrong, there's good and bad in any race/religion/gender, etc. but when you go out on road service calls, and see women with 3 and 4 kids, and there's never a father to be found, i think it kind of tells a story. or you see them in the stores.
i'm not racist, although i DO see a LOT of black people practicing this. they seem to think it's ok because they're black. hell, one of my black friends(we've drifted apart over the years) would change completley when any of his black friends showed up. suddenly i was the outcast. when it was just him and i, we were like brothers.

anyway.......gotta go work

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[AKIron]

He means to say that black men comprise the majority of absentee/negligent fathers out there.

Not sure how true this is, given population ratios. They certainly make up more than their share... I know this from all the rap music I listen to, and the shows I watch on WB.

You could also know it's true from the ratio of women on welfare. Obama is not wrong or racist in this but I think he is pandering to the Mexican fearing, gun worshiping, religious wacko majority in this country.

[ZetaNine]

I told a group of black friends.... whom by the way I consider good friends ....that I was "proud to be white"........and they began to tell me how that was racist.

that still makes me laugh.

[Jackal1]

Just another case of OsamaObama doing his best to CYOA......................... .........at every turn.

[Leslie]

here is the link lasz.  hope you'll get a chance to read it.

http://www.dontvoteobama.net/adobe/michelle%20Obama%20thesis%20part%201.pdf

I read it JB88.  That was Part 1 of the thesis.  This does not seem to be the complete thesis.  Does anyone have a link to the thesis in its entirety?  What she is saying in this part linked is an introduction to what she intends to study and her theory on what might be expected to be found, but it ends there and doesn't continue towards any conclusions.  She is studying alumni and there should be some references to personal research through contact with alumni and what they had to say.  She would need to conduct a scientific poll amongst the alumni and reveal her results.

It should be kept in mind this thesis is undergraduate work.  Perhaps it is a preliminary intro to a Master's thesis?  I think a thesis would require some polling research along with statistics to be complete.

Can anyone shed some light about this?  Does Mrs. Obama have a Master's degree?  Is this Part 1 an introduction of intent to do master's work on the subject described, or is there more to the undergraduate thesis after Part 1?  It does not seem complete and ends in a manner where further discussion is anticipated in Part 2.


Les

[midnight Target]

I told a group of black friends.... whom by the way I consider good friends ....that I was "proud to be white"........and they began to tell me how that was racist.

that still makes me laugh.

This made me think of you.

http://www.blackpeopleloveus.com/

[Maverick]

To get back on the original topic.....

Here is a link to snopes and the 4 pages they have on obama. There are references to muslin and patriotism in them.

http://search.atomz.com/search/?sp-q=Obama+koran&getit=Go&sp-a=00062d45-sp00000000&sp-advanced=1&sp-p=all&sp-w-control=1&sp-w=alike&sp-date-range=-1&sp-x=any&sp-c=100&sp-m=1&sp-s=0

I didn't look at the item that spawned the original post here but anytime I get an e-mail or see something that has the same look of one of those chain mails I check snopes.

[ZetaNine]

This made me think of you.

http://www.blackpeopleloveus.com/

you GO, girl !!

[JBA]

CNN headline news that Obama is calling upon dead-beat Black fathers to live up to their parental obligations..On Fathers day?

Why is skin complexion an issue when it comes to non payment of child support?

I think this man's true "colours" are surfacing.

"Race" is a non-issue...Considering we all decended from the same small region of Africa,are we not all "brothers"?

72% of children in the black community are born illegitimate.

[midnight Target]

you GO, girl !!

wow...

[moot]

What a gargantuan waste of time, racism.

[Maverick]

FWIW I went back and did a general search on snopes just under the name "Obama" and this page is what popped up. There may be more but I'm disinclined to do more searching until something specific piques my interest.
http://search.atomz.com/search/?sp-q=Obama&getit=Go&sp-a=00062d45-sp00000000&sp-advanced=1&sp-p=all&sp-w-control=1&sp-w=alike&sp-date-range=-1&sp-x=any&sp-c=100&sp-m=1&sp-s=0

[Bronk]

I want to get this right.
MT, saying your proud of your race..... makes you racist?

[Leslie]

Thank you Maverick.  I read the entire thesis and to me it makes sense.  I understand it to say, and I paraphrase:

Basically it says the Black respondents mostly felt comfortable with other Black people before and during the Princeton period.  Her speculation was that after graduation the respondents primarily sought to get along well with Whites because most upwardly mobile job opportunities involved employment in White operated companies.

In my opinion this is pretty common sense stuff, that people of a particular race feel more comfortable with others of their own race.  A college environment offered opportunities for intellectual assimilation/integration with Whites at Princeton, and during this time the respondents felt more comfortable around Whites.  The results did show that Blacks at Princeton still preferred to be with other Blacks socially.  This may be due in large part to cultural identification.

There is one area which I'm not sure I agree with when she says the Black race has suffered more injustice than any other race in the history of our country.  This part was mentioned as one of the points of cohesiveness amongst Black people, in addition to other cultural aspects unique to Blacks.  It is true there was much injustice with plenty to go around for other races as well imo.

However the thesis is competently written.  I found one spelling error in Part 3.  There is one term she uses which is probably more descriptive as applied to an individual's preference concerning race and race relations.  The terms she uses are "separatist" and "integrationist."   "Separatist/pluralist" is used to describe Black folks who prefer to be around other Black folks socially.  More accurately it describes anyone who participates in advancing their own culture or heritage.

There are no moral judgments made in the thesis, but it seems the separatist point of view is validated on the side of reality, that being presented as the dire situation of the Black Lower class and the instance of respondents who had graduated from Princeton and were undecided if they had moved upwardly either socially or economically.

I read nothing controversial in this thesis.  It sums up what any common sense understanding of human nature would know beforehand.  However I agree that a presidential candidate needs to avoid any statements involving working to advance a particular race.  The President has to have the interests of the American people foremost in mind.




Les