Author Topic: The price (Read 584 times)

Chantler · « **on:** March 11, 2001, 09:57:00 PM »

$30 a month?!? I can cable for that amount. Ever Quest was $10 a month. this way too much money for a computer game. I would be spending at lease more than 360 dollars a year.

please lower the price.

XNachoX · « **Reply #1 on:** March 11, 2001, 10:03:00 PM »

the $30 a month is to ward away quake heads and the like. They may be lowering it sooner or later but it's not going to be lowered a lot. Sorry buddy but that's the way it's gunna be for awhile.

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Creamo · « **Reply #2 on:** March 11, 2001, 10:19:00 PM »

Yeah, it WAS FREE till the Quake and Everquest crowd showed up.

Now they charge money for their hard work just to discriminate against people that play certain computer games.

HTC, being independently wealthy lottery winners, are in fact just game maker hobbyists.

Since it's just fun to them, it sometimes really pisses me off with their business practices.

Dont you know nuthin, sheesh.

J_A_B · « **Reply #3 on:** March 11, 2001, 10:39:00 PM »

It is that expensive because when it was first introduced, WarBirds was still charging by the hour--which made $30 a month seem like a bargain. WarBirds is AH's primary competition.

Plus, since FR flightsims tend to have a somewhat limited playerbase, $30 was the best number for HTC to maximize profits.

I'll agree, though, that $30/month is somewhat of a rip-off for ANY computer game (and hourly charging is downright robbery). I understand the economics of it, but I am not willing to pay it, and will probably no longer have an account at the end of this billing cycle (account was a present from GF).

J_A_B

Toad · « **Reply #4 on:** March 12, 2001, 06:20:00 AM »

Creamo, I hear yah bud!

...and check this!

I went down to the Kia dealership and checked out a nice sedan. Then I went across the street to a BMW dealership and they wanted nearly 5 times as much for a nice sedan!

What's up with THAT?

Skysix1 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 12, 2001, 06:42:00 AM »

For as much time as some people spend on AH $30 a month is pretty dang cheap! Heck I cant even take my wife to dinner for less than $40-$60 and then I eat too much and feel like crap all night long

and dinner only lasts an hour or so and I gotta spend more money to see movie I pry don't realy wanna see (theres another $20 unless she wants Popcorn and pop then its like $40). Hell I'd pay $50-$60 a month to actually be able to fly all the planes anytime I wanted to without having to worry about perk points.

I just think they should charge you for the plane you fly (from Free to maybe $2) and keep the perk system for people who dont want to pay for the better planes?

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Mickey1992 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 12, 2001, 08:00:00 AM »

Bah! I am SAVING money by playing AH. Instead of buying a game at the shops for $40-$50 bucks once a month, I am only paying HTC $30.

J_A_B · « **Reply #7 on:** March 13, 2001, 12:41:00 PM »

Cost of AH = $360/year

Cost of Unreal Tournament = $45/one time fee

And guess which game has a larger comminuty, more organized events, and more variety? It isn't AH!

Cost of AW = $120/year.

Cost of AH = $360/year

Guess which game has more airplanes available, and has more organized events, and a larger community. It isn't AH! In addition, the subscription for AW will soon include several other online games as well.

Cost of WB's = $300/year

Cost of AH = $360/year

Needless to say, WB's has more players, more planes, and more events than AH has. Plus you get a WW1 arena included.

Average yearly cost for EverQuest = $175/year (the monthly fee plus the game and an update package)

Cost of AH = $360/year.

EQ has a vastly larger player base, considerably more variety, a fully functioning "world", and all for half the money AH costs.

Now, do some math. For the amount of money AH costs:

You can play WarBirds, have a WW1 arena, AND play UT as well.

OR, You can play EQ, AW, any other game included in the AW subscription, and UT (and all its mods)--and even save a bit of cash.

AH is only a bargain if AH is the only game you play. If you're like me, and play several different games, AH is not worth the cost. I fully understand the economics of HTC's situation, but that doesn't make me willing to forgo any other games.

For me AH isn't worth the money. Everyone has their own opinion, and that is mine.

J_A_B

Heater · « **Reply #8 on:** March 13, 2001, 01:54:00 PM »

Then Don't play ! it's very simple!

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Sunchaser · « **Reply #9 on:** March 13, 2001, 04:09:00 PM »

I don't think the 30 bucks has anything to do with keeping out quakeheads or 10 year olds, it has to do with what HTC figures they can get.

So far they figure right and until or unless something as good or better comes along cheaper they will charge 30 bucks.

The player base seems to not be growing much, it jumps a bit each new release but many of the "two weekers" do not stay.

Wonder why?

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Westy · « **Reply #10 on:** March 13, 2001, 05:10:00 PM »

Amen Heater. _A_ _fediddleing_ _amen.

JAB, go back to ArcadeWarrior and do yourself a favour and save yourself all this aggravation of having to put up with AH. the only advantage ArcadeWarrior has over Aces High is....

wait for it!

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Graywolf · « **Reply #11 on:** March 13, 2001, 06:14:00 PM »

A couple of nights of Aces High generally saves me more in beer money than the monthly subscription.

Maybe I could derail this thread into whining about central London pub prices =)

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J_A_B · « **Reply #12 on:** March 14, 2001, 11:36:00 AM »

As long as I have an AH account, I have just as much right to post my opinions here as anyone else does. Since these BB's aren't even restricted, I can continue posting even after I cancel my account in a few weeks.

There is no requirement that people who post here are only permitted to post things they LIKE. So far, the price of AH is the only thing I repeatedly discuss on this BB (the current issue with clouds/night notwithstanding). Those who may read certain other BB's know that I have some other issues with AH, but I won't bring them up here as it wouldn't have any positive effect. I won't complain here about things which won't change.

Westy asked for ONE advantage AW has over AH. That's an easy one to answer. AW has the advantage of economics. AW costs 1/3 as much for identical gameplay (fake countries, arena-based) and more organized events.

AH is a fine piece of technology, but as far as I am concerned AH the game isn't worth $30/month. That is my opinion, and it's every bit as valid as that of people who think AH IS worth it. My earlier post detailed WHY I feel $30/month is too much for AH.

As to why I play AH if I don't particularily like it? I have the account, so I might as well use it. Every now and then I like to check up on AH's progress. AH has wonderful potential, which might be realized some day. That is why I keep track of what goes on here. Eventually AH might well be worth $30/month. Right now it isn't.

I don't ask for people to agree with me, but I expect people to respect the fact that not everyone has the same opinion.

J_A_B

sling322 · « **Reply #13 on:** March 14, 2001, 11:48:00 AM »

AHHHHH.....SHADDUP!!!

Mickey1992 · « **Reply #14 on:** March 14, 2001, 11:51:00 AM »

"....$30 was the best number for HTC to maximize profits."

How about $1000/month? Wouldn't that be more profitable? You can't blame them for picking a price point that was lower than the average monthly bill of a competing product, and yet high enough for them to pay salaries and operational costs.

"I don't ask for people to agree with me, but I expect people to respect the fact that not everyone has the same opinion."

I agree. But when you use the term "rip-off" to describe a product that the majority of people here enjoy, you can not blame them for defending it.

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Author Topic: The price (Read 584 times)

Chantler