Rotating the Perked Aircraft?

[SmokinLoon]

Some planes to me that are perked (I said planes, not jets  ) are tough to fly.  Namely the Tempest and Spit14.  There are a few planes that are not perked that are as easy as apple pie to fly and are highly popular for exactly that reason.  The Spit16 and La7 are the two most obvious.  The Nik2 isnt too far behind, and while the P51D is extremely popular it doesnt seem to be a plane just anyone can hop into and fly into battle due to some little querks here n there.

So... has HTC thought about rotating some of the current perked aircraft OUT into the "free world" and in turn place some of the uber easy as can be aircraft into the world of being perked?  I'd vote to unperk the Spit14 and Tempest, and perk the Spit16, La7, and maybe the Nik2.  Try it and see how it works?  If the game changes drastically, then swap it back to the way it was.

I know some of the die hard Spit16, La7, and Nik2 fans will voice their displeasure... but ya know....  there is an old saying "Free your mind and your arse will follow" (from what movie??? 5 perks to the one who gets it right  ), try it sometime. 

[AAolds]

SpitXIV is in my view the easiet and most deadly of the spitfires to fly.   As for rotating what planes are perked......Id be game for giving it a try.

[Furball]

I find it is not so much flying the 14 that is the problem, more aiming in it - torque really effects rudder input and it is hard to aim in.

[SD67]

That sounds suspiciously like an RPS.
You don't wanna know what happens to HT in an RPS.

[Ghosth]

And what is it exactly that you expect the new guys to fly when they can't fly spit16, nik and la7?

Each and every one of those planes can be beaten if you learn how.

[angelsandair]

N1k is easy to turn with in most planes. It has horrible climb IMO and I usually go vert after a pass and go on top with an immelan. 

[SmokinLoon]

And what is it exactly that you expect the new guys to fly when they can't fly spit16, nik and la7?

Each and every one of those planes can be beaten if you learn how.

My suggestion has nothing to do with my ability to shoot down the above mentioned planes... I made an observation of the ease of use for both the new guy and vet.  Those three planes are easy to fly.  Period.  The new guys can hop into many other planes and learn the game.  I suggest the Zeke for most new guys because it seems to be the best for learning angles, etc (nimble and easiest to correct in flight mistakes).     

OR....

What about reducing the perk costs of the Tempest and Spit14, and adding a small perk cost to the three mentioned above?  Say maybe 5-8 points (normalized) for the Spit16, 4-6 for the La7, and 4-6 for the Nik?  Reduce the Tempest down to 15-20, and the Spit14 down to 5-8.

How many have actually taken the Spit14 into the mix?  Very few do becuase the Spit16 does it all better ('cept for climb and high alt speed).  How many actually know how difficult the Tempest is to fly? 

OR....

Include the above scenario AND/OR have a more fluid ENY score throughout the game.  I'm not exactly %100 sure how the ENY is calculated, but Im guessing it has to do with the success of lack of success a country is experiencing at any point in time.  Perhaps reduce the steps it takes to affect the ENY?  If people had to take something other than a 5-10 ENY plane on a reoccuring basis,... imagine the horror if a Spit16 fanboi (fanboi = whiny vet who cant fly anything else) had to up in a Spit Mk? about every 3rd time he tried to up because the ENY had shifted?   

[Lusche]

  How many actually know how difficult the Tempest is to fly? 

The Tempest is not that difficult to fly. Keep it fast and you are close to being untouchable

It's neither as bad turning nor rolling as the Typhoon. It's heavy, but extremely powerful and without any doubt the most dangerous plane in MA gameplay. Can catch anything, can run away from everything but a 262 and has 4 Hispanos with plenty ammo.
There's a good reason the Tempest has often even surpassed the Me 262 in K/D, and always being lightyears ahead of the competition.

No way that plane getting unperked or even having it's perk price reduced while the Spit XVi getting perked.


(from: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,223633.0.html)

Compare Tempest to Spit 16 or La 7... 

[MachFly]

I would say unperking spit 14 is a good idea. 

[Ack-Ack]

Each and every one of those planes can be beaten if you learn how.

[sarcasm]But why take the time to improve yourself when you can just demand these planes be perked instead?  The path of least resistance is the easiest to follow for a reason you know.[/sarcasm]


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[SmokinLoon]

[sarcasm]But why take the time to improve yourself when you can just demand these planes be perked instead?  The path of least resistance is the easiest to follow for a reason you know.[/sarcasm]
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Again... it has nothing to do with my skilz (or lack of), but rather... ah never mind.  Some knee jerk reactions are inevitable.

[Rambo Fan]

Let me put this in a summary...

You can't fly the perk planes? Your not good enough.
You can't kill a darn thing in a spit, a la7 or a N1K so you want to unperk the good planes? Your obviously whining? 

Point is you suck, you want the good planes because you think that will improve you?
_____________________________ _____________________________ _____________________________ ____________________People use the La7, and other planes, cause there for beginners? But you want to take away the planes people use to get better, by perking them. One way or another i think it be better tyo leave the game as it is.
Im 50% in, 50% out, thats a maybe.

[trotter]

Let me put this in a summary...

You can't fly the perk planes? Your not good enough.
You can't kill a darn thing in a spit, a la7 or a N1K so you want to unperk the good planes? Your obviously whining? 

Point is you suck, you want the good planes because you think that will improve you?
_____________________________ _____________________________ _____________________________ ____________________People use the La7, and other planes, cause there for beginners? But you want to take away the planes people use to get better, by perking them. One way or another i think it be better tyo leave the game as it is.
Im 50% in, 50% out, thats a maybe.

Excuse me, who are you? This is a piss poor reply, and coming from someone as new to the game as you, probably warrants a forum ban. Completely out of line.

[Becinhu]

People don't fly the 5 eny planes just because they suck. Some people actually like them. Personally I only use the La-7 for base defense because it's attributes (fast acceleration and climb) fit base defense perfectly, especially NOE raids. The Niki is a close second for base defense because when it's 20 to 1, 900 cannon rounds go a long way. The spit 16 on the other hand is a dog and I would rather up a spit 8 anyday.  Just because the plane is ENY 5 doesn't mean the person hits autopilot to land 10 kills every sortie...they still have to aim and shoot. The only truly lame part about the 5 eny planes is the high probability that every time you face on the moron on the other end will try his very best to Ho you every pass even if his plane can outperform your plane for a rear quarter shot if he actually gave it half an effort (ie him=spit 16, you=190 f-8 low and slow on the deck).

[VansCrew1]

The Tempest is not that difficult to fly. Keep it fast and you are close to being untouchable

It's neither as bad turning nor rolling as the Typhoon. It's heavy, but extremely powerful and without any doubt the most dangerous plane in MA gameplay. Can catch anything, can run away from everything but a 262 and has 4 Hispanos with plenty ammo.
There's a good reason the Tempest has often even surpassed the Me 262 in K/D, and always being lightyears ahead of the competition.

No way that plane getting unperked or even having it's perk price reduced while the Spit XVi getting perked.

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(from: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,223633.0.html)

Compare Tempest to Spit 16 or La 7... 

Tempest, 262 and 163 have the best K/D's because people that fly them are more timid when there in them. They don't go around hoing and vulching with them. Spit16 and LA on the other hand people will HO just for the sake of HOing.