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Offline maik

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« on: March 03, 2000, 06:48:00 AM »
After reading that MS will implement "Battlecomm" in DirectX 8, I wonder if HTC is planning to do their own Voicecomm in AH.

How about just puttin up a "battlecomm" - server with dedicated Country - and if possible squad - channels  .

Anybody has any experiences about how this thing works?

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« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2000, 08:51:00 AM »
I find Roger Wilco more intuitive to use. But BC supports several channels, which is good.  Maybe it could be implemented into AH just like different channels on the text radio we have now?

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« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2000, 09:12:00 AM »
Whatever happens It will need security to keep the lamers off of enemy channels. I guess if you play long enough you will see every stuppid thing that the wreck the game idiots can come up with...Thanks for showing me a new one FDAce.

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« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2000, 10:37:00 AM »
Actually Pongo, what happened was quite innocent. While flying in the training area someone told me about RW. I downloaded and tried it. They gave me the IP to test. My brother also flys AH and we had been using it, with his IP as server. He was not on at the time and so I switched to the other IP, which I now assume is the rook channel. Got on just in time to hear somone talk about being shot down (c-47) and since I had just shot down a c-47, I said "GOT YA" and I thought now this is FUN, where you get to talk to the enemy. Someone said is there a Bish on the channel and I said "Yes". Then all heck broke out with lots of name calling.
I immediately logged off RW. But it was too late, the flames began. When you are new to a game as I am to AH (2.5 weeks now) and brand new to RW, it seems that you will inevitabley break some unknown rule, that is to be expected. I was sad to see however that instead of asking me if I knew i was on an enemy channel and that that was not a cool thing to do. I was immediately called a cheater. Hey, I thought it was fun to talk to the enemy, but I understand the importance of private team channels. I would say a little grace in these situations would help the game overall. There are somethings like HO's and shooting chutes that I perceive pilots believe differently about and so I'm certain I will again anger someone. But it wasnt my intention to cheat.
Actually as you may recall I was practically a sole defender of airport 2. In any event I hope that you and your team can get past this. I haven't even chosen a final team yet and dont know the procedure for doing so since I just popped on as a Bish. Hope this explaination clears things up and looking forward to more great flights and fights (in the air)

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« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2000, 11:29:00 AM »
He he ..
fdace you are full of it and everyone that was on RW and heard your statments at the time knows it...I was amazed at the denial statments that showed up in the buffer after your more honest statements on RW as to how deliberate it was and how thats the kind of player you are.
Your denials here are even more curios.
The fdace that was on RW seemed proud to be underhanded, he was quite proud of his action and the admitedly too big of a response it got from me.
An apology from one of your country mates calmed me down and we moved on.
You have made a good start joining our flying comunity welcome aboard.
Most here will judge you by what you do, not what you type. Most of the wrecking crew and most of the muskiteers where on that RW channel, you are not kidding anybody.


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« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2000, 12:02:00 PM »
When I shot down the c-7 I said "I got you"
then someone said is there a bish on the channel and i said YES! then I got off RW when there was a ruckus. Any thing said on RW in a bragging maner or to the effect of that was the way I was was said by someone ELSE on RW not me. In the buffer you may recall, I said early (before I knew people were so upset)that our counter intellegence was better or something like that. I mentioned the German codebreakers (still refering to realism). AS far as "teammates" I only remember coyote laughing it off by saying "thats why we like him etc..
If it appeared that I was not ashamed of being on your channel. It indeed indicates that I didn't really know you all would get so upset over it. Now that I know that it is not something to do, I simply will not do it.
I did think it was fun to converse with the planes that you fly against and so if this type of RW gets included in AH  I hope we get a common channel also.

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« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2000, 12:10:00 PM »
ROFL FDace, did you tell them your other handle was Intrepid. :P


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« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2000, 12:17:00 PM »
This incident reminds me of the time when I first got on WB and they had some prize for shooting down HiTech or somebody and i got all excited because I saw his ID right in front of me so I SHOT HIM DOWN. Then it was explained to me that he was on MY team and I couldn't do that. I said "Does this mean I don't get the T-Shirt??

I have one   ( but it was done legally - later)

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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2000, 02:16:00 PM »
Other than to repeat the thought that being dishonest about your experiance level and behavior motivations is worse than your deliberate act of superdweebness, I would recomend you just let it drop, I am sure that almost no one cares. It is a good lesson for me on not useing rw for goon plans.

A note: claiming inexperiance and recounting old tales of shooting down HT when he was a warbirds in the same thread is a self incriminating behavior.
You say conversing with the enemy. this implies that you had said anything befor you said "Dam right I did" when I said "he got me". You had said nothing before I got shot down in my goon. You where spying
Your comments about radio intelligence also make it clear you knew what you were doing..
You are not even a remotly good lier. You cant hold to a story for more than a post without destroying it yourself.

I recomend again that you drop this thread.
I promis that I will if you do. But I will reply to any lie you post..this is going no where for you.
 

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« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2000, 03:54:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Pongo:
Other than to repeat the thought that being dishonest about your experiance level and behavior motivations is worse than your deliberate act of superdweebness,

Till a few days ago I have never used RW. That is why i didnt say anything at first and didnt know that it would be so upsetting to be on the wrong channel.  I AM an experienced pilot, however, having flown for over 15 years starting with Fighter Duel (amiga vers) and have consistantly been in the top 10 of any Ladder tourney that I entered. Just two actually FD and WB. I never really joined in to the campain style flying.

 I would recomend you just let it drop, I am sure that almost no one cares.

I would love to let it drop but calling someone a liar and cheat is not condusive to
"letting things drop" If you no longer make inacurate statements about me, I am sure that I will have no need to defend myself

 It is a good lesson for me on not useing rw for goon plans.

I like the idea of the voice com being built into the  progrgram but am sure that the AH guys are keeping busy with other things.

A note: claiming inexperiance and recounting old tales of shooting down HT when he was a warbirds in the same thread is a self incriminating behavior.

Explained earlier in the thread  1. brand new to RW 2. expeienced pilot.

You say conversing with the enemy. this implies that you had said anything befor you said "Dam right I did" when I said "he got me". You had said nothing before I got shot down in my goon.

I did not say anything before I said GOT YA.
I dont usually use the word "Damn" and doubt if I said that.

You where spying

hmn, wonder what good that would have done me, the sole defender of port 2. It also had nothing to do with shooting the c-7 down, since i was getting vulched badly and just happened to get off the ground and saw the c-47 right in front of me and went and shot it down. I really dont see how RW helped me in that situation.

Your comments about radio intelligence also make it clear you knew what you were doing..
You are not even a remotly good lier.

Thanks, thats because I'm not a liar  

You cant hold to a story for more than a post without destroying it yourself.

I think I'm being quite consistant here

I recomend again that you drop this thread.
I promis that I will if you do. But I will reply to any lie you post..this is going no where for you.
 
If I said something about you that was misunderstood and perceived in a derogitory manner I'm sure you would want to clarify the situation.

I'm quite happy to let it rest.




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« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2000, 04:46:00 PM »
On the Wrecking Crew and the Musketeer's bad side.  

OUCH!!

I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy!

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You got your work cut out for ya!!    

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« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2000, 04:44:00 AM »
Multiple channels are really a nice feature - but I have some trouble using BC. I never tried it online but when I do the offline test I have to set mic-amplification (+20dB) on just to hear anything which does not help transmission quality much though. From the voxcomms I used to date I find RW the easiest and best to use.

I am sure that if HTC integrates RW into AH we will get several channels. Personally I quite like the system AW3 offers (though not the transmission quality). Give us the possibility to tune to vox channels like to ordinary radio channels, e.g. voxchannel(vc) 2 is country channel - vc4 is squad channel - vc### is individual channel...  how about that?


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« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2000, 09:24:00 AM »
I dunno... the thought of hearing what's on the minds of every person on my side while they are being vultched sounds like something to avoid...

I rather like having the ability to delete a message I was just finished typing... that small amount of time it takes me to type allows my brain to catch up with my emotions.  

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« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2000, 11:22:00 AM »
Kieren

DO the other games allow you to have a "General" channel where you can hear the enemy as well? I think it would be fun to discuss tactics after a loss or win.

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« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2000, 11:47:00 AM »
BFC is a FAR superior product to RW, hands down. I have used both for online gaming and my Tribes group and we eventually PAID to have BFC because of problems with RW and networks' connections and lack of features.

The RW base station is just pathetic to all the options in BFC, you can have hotkey channel changes in the game, whispers set to a key that go directly to a person and are prioritized so they fade out background chatter, customizable mike clicks to identify you better, and passworded channels or servers.

  As for that mike thing...  I am sorry but RW and BFC use identical methods of setup for that stuff. It is highly unlikely that was BFC related. BFC does have a much better voice activation though, it catches peaks of noise to activate instead of just a volume trigger, hence if your stereo is cranked it still won't trigger until it gets a spike from the mike to show your talking. Unfortunatly both trigger when someone chooses to "breath" into their mike  

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