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Offline Anaxogoras

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kills against manned ack
« on: June 17, 2008, 04:49:35 AM »
Yeah, you know the topic.  I did a search for manned ack and there seems to widespread support for the idea that a kill should be awarded for killing manned ack, but I haven't heard of any follow up on the idea so I'm putting it here again. :cool:  It's especially annoying when you kill a manned ack and see the message that so and so "landed" x kills as a gunner. :huh

Either do not award kills of aircraft and vehicles to gunners, or award kills for killing gunners.  There has to be symmetry.
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Re: kills against manned ack
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2008, 05:10:31 AM »
provided you get a kill recorded when you die and not land, then I'd be cool with that.
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Re: kills against manned ack
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2008, 05:12:44 AM »
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Re: kills against manned ack
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2008, 10:03:00 AM »
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Offline Yossarian

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Re: kills against manned ack
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2008, 10:03:45 AM »
Quote from: Anaxogoras on June 17, 2008, 04:49:35 AM
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It's especially annoying when you kill a manned ack and see the message that so and so "landed" x kills as a gunner. :huh
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Why's it annoying?
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Re: kills against manned ack
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2008, 10:49:48 AM »
Since the kills you land as a gunner don't count toward your score (as I understand it) so presumably the death wouldn't count either - but what Anaxogoras is saying is that his death (which he risks when he attempts to kill the manned ack) would count against him, so therefore the kill of the guy manning the manned ack should count for him.

I don't care enough either way to have a strong opinion of my own, but I believe that that is the gist of the request.

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Offline Yossarian

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Re: kills against manned ack
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2008, 10:56:25 AM »
Ok, well, my counter-argument is that since manned ack positions are so easy to destroy (just a few cannon rounds nearby will do it, if that much), then it's best the way it is.

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Offline Anaxogoras

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Re: kills against manned ack
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2008, 11:45:52 AM »
Quote from: Yossarian on June 17, 2008, 10:56:25 AM
Ok, well, my counter-argument is that since manned ack positions are so easy to destroy (just a few cannon rounds nearby will do it, if that much), then it's best the way it is.

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C47's are easier to destroy for the simple reason that they don't shoot back with 37mm shells. :lol

Even if I accepted your agument, which I do not, it should not say so and so landed kills when you just destroyed his gun position. :P
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Offline stroker71

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Re: kills against manned ack
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2008, 01:49:55 PM »
My thoughts on this...if the position is unmaned then you should just get the kill of the softgun.  But if someone is in there then you should get a kill on the gunner and the softgun!  There shouldn't be any down side of that...softguns should still be a freebie kill/death...meaning no perks.  If you drop on a cv with 5 people in gunner positions and you kill all 5 guns...you should get 5 kills.  You get no added perks for killing people so whats the big deal?
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Re: kills against manned ack
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2008, 02:00:25 PM »
True, but if a manned ack is lightly defended, but has 37mm shells firing at you? It doesn't make sense we should get the kill, i mean we are taking 37mm shells and most of the time it ruins our planes. I WANT A MESSAGE GOING ":you killed Blah#1, you kill Blah#2" . Another disscusion we need to bring up is HANGARS, a .50 cal round goes through the sheet metal CALLED THE ARMOR of the hangar why can't a fighter with a 30mm destroy the hangar? with 500 round of 30mm? It only makes sense. .50 cal goes through, 30mm destroys???idk.
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Re: kills against manned ack
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2008, 02:34:28 PM »
Quote from: Rambo Fan on June 17, 2008, 02:00:25 PM
True, but if a manned ack is lightly defended, but has 37mm shells firing at you? It doesn't make sense we should get the kill, i mean we are taking 37mm shells and most of the time it ruins our planes. I WANT A MESSAGE GOING ":you killed Blah#1, you kill Blah#2" . Another disscusion we need to bring up is HANGARS, a .50 cal round goes through the sheet metal CALLED THE ARMOR of the hangar why can't a fighter with a 30mm destroy the hangar? with 500 round of 30mm? It only makes sense. .50 cal goes through, 30mm destroys???idk.



Maybe I'm confused, but I've killed many hangers with 50cal...20mm...30mm. Especially when they are soft...no problem.
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Re: kills against manned ack
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2008, 02:43:47 PM »
Sorry...I'm still trying to figure out why anyone should care???? :huh
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Re: kills against manned ack
« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2008, 02:49:46 PM »
as much as I'd like to yes, I'm going towards no. easy to kill especially if you hit them before their maned instead of leaving them up until they start firing which is the norm.
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Re: kills against manned ack
« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2008, 03:17:13 PM »
So are you saying you should get the kill for an auto ack too?  They are shooting at you after all.  What about puffy ack?

It's good the way it is; None of the kills count toward scores or ranks, you shouldn't get your name in lights for popping a soft gun and it gives n00bs something to do to get involved in the game.
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Re: kills against manned ack
« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2008, 03:20:37 PM »
Killing a Puffy gun deserves 1 years free membership.
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