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Offline Ripsnort

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Re: Cholesterol Anybody?
« Reply #30 on: June 19, 2008, 04:40:59 PM »
A heart scan generated the extreme desire to lower my cholesterol. It showed an estimated 95% blockage of the LAD. Turned out it was actually 98% according to the Doc that did the stenting.
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Re: Cholesterol Anybody?
« Reply #31 on: June 19, 2008, 06:45:06 PM »


Reduce red meat--go more with fish (baked or grilled) especially, then chicken.


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blech!
No idea what mine is. Im afraid to find out.

All I know is if its high.
Im going to be told to cut down on the foods I like. And to eat more of the foods I hate.
Or to cook foods in a manner which will make me not like them.

I have made some concessions though.
I've recently stopped frying everything in butter and have changed to olive oil.
And olive oil and garlic whenever possible
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Re: Cholesterol Anybody?
« Reply #32 on: June 19, 2008, 08:04:09 PM »
blech!
No idea what mine is. Im afraid to find out.

All I know is if its high.
Im going to be told to cut down on the foods I like. And to eat more of the foods I hate.
Or to cook foods in a manner which will make me not like them.

When you're in the ambulance sweating with an elephant standing on your chest, getting to eat BigMacs won't seem so important.
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Re: Cholesterol Anybody?
« Reply #33 on: June 19, 2008, 08:50:11 PM »
Lets just say my doc. mentioned that if my levels had been this high since my last blood exam (when I was like 16... 14 years ago) ... he didnt know how I was still alive.

My cholesterol wasnt the problem. Triglycerides were. normal levels 150 mine were 980+. Even with strongest medication it only goes down to 230. My cholesterol levels though, were normal. Sometimes even a bit UNDER normal.

Since most things that lower cholesterol also lower trig's, here's what I know works for me:


Oatmeal. Real oatmeal flakes not powdered instant stuff. one, preferably 2, cups of it a day lowered my levels by about 15%. That was pretty big. Great for digestion too.

Omega-3 supplements.

Replace red meats with fish and chicken, avoid greasy cooking (that is, Fried chicken doesnt count!).

Seaweed. Believe it or not, its almost as good as oatmeal.

Niacin supplements / foods.  Niacin is 5X better than oatmeal and Omega 3 combined. Problem is the stuff gives you unpleasant side effects... like flushing. Imagine being sunburned in every millimeter of your body.. you turn bright red, it itches like hell just like when you sunburned.. super sensitive to touch...

and you feel it under your fingernails, inside your buttcheeks, behind your ears.. in your lips.. inside your eyelids. Currently taking minimal doses and working my way up to the recommended amount.

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« Reply #34 on: June 20, 2008, 12:30:08 AM »
Late to the thread, sorry... I had 2 stents put in November of '06. I'm taking lipitor, plavix, atenolol, lisinopril and asprin. I've changed my diet from red meat to chicken and veg. My problem is getting my triglycerides under control.

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« Reply #35 on: June 20, 2008, 12:55:03 AM »
Niacin supplements / foods.  Niacin is 5X better than oatmeal and Omega 3 combined. Problem is the stuff gives you unpleasant side effects... like flushing. Imagine being sunburned in every millimeter of your body.. you turn bright red, it itches like hell just like when you sunburned.. super sensitive to touch...

and you feel it under your fingernails, inside your buttcheeks, behind your ears.. in your lips.. inside your eyelids. Currently taking minimal doses and working my way up to the recommended amount.


Niaspan was kind of like that for me but not that severe.  I quit taking it.

Now I take 1500 mg of SloNiacin each day with no problems.  It's timed release, it's really helped out my triglycerides and it's over the counter.

As to diet I haven't cut out burgers, steak, pizza, sausage, etc. but I make sure I have chicken, fish or turkey more days than not.  I also eat a lot more fruits and veggies.  Everyhing bad in moderation.
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« Reply #36 on: June 20, 2008, 07:43:14 AM »
Good thread for the young guys to read, might I add.

Toad and I have posted back and forth about this a lot.  I have high cholesterol, just inheritied.  French ancestry.  I figure we all have veins full of gravy or something.  My family history shows us stroking out in our 70s to 80s, so we do not have a "terrible" history.  Those that went sooner were smokers.  And of course, knowing what we know now kind of thing.

It wasn't until a coworker had a heart attack that something scared the heck out of me.  He was a 2-pack a day smoker, no exercise and out fast food a lot.  He was an on-the-road copier repair guy and went home one night, got the cold sweats and called 911.  He survived and is alright now, but what freaked me out was he was on 42 or so when this happened.  For whatever reason, at 34, this to me was like lightening striking a few feet away from you.  It was time to see what could happen if you do not take care of yourself, so smarten up!

My cholesterol wasnt terrible, always in the 220s with the HDL in the mid 50s.  Trigs 99.  But once they lowered the bar to 200, suddenly I went from slightly high to this new approach of OMG-GET-IT-LOWER.

I did really well on Lipitor, dropping it to 162 but I ached and ached from that med. I tried many of Toad's suggestions and changed the diet radically since 2004.  With my Dr's help, we tried as many non-medical ways to lower it, including niacin.  If you ever wanted to know what a woman goes through with hotflashes, niacin is your trip!  That made my HDL (good stuff) soar, but for me, it brought the other stuff up too.  I did niacin for 4 months and got tested twice, I was 270 and 285.  Not where we want to go!

Since then, I'm on pravastatin and do not get the aching.  (Vytorin made my back feel like I went 9 rounds with George Foreman)  My last few tests have steadily gone down, I hit 199 in Jan (HDL 52) but burbled up to 213 in March (HDL 55).  My doctor upped my statin from 10mg to 20mg to push me under 200.

Working at a hospital is quite an enlightening experience.  I walk by the cath lab daily and I cringe when I see guys in their 30s and 40s in there.  Thankfully, for employees, they offer a lot of free screenings for stroke prevention and the like.  While I have never had the resources to do a heart scan like Toad did, I was able to get a free ultrasound of my cartoid arteries (neck) and I came up all clear.  Most insurances will cover a good deal of preventative care items, so ask your doctor what's available.

If you are into reading about these things, I would suggest the Dr Oz book "You: The Owner's Manual" amongst others.

A few nutritional tips I would pass along...

1.  Do a daily vitamin.  I like the GNC Heart Health Vita-packets.

2.  If you take a statin, consider adding CoQ10 supplements since its an important heart health item and statins turn off that enzyme to slow cholesterol protection.  I take 100mg in the morning and another at night.

3.  Alpha Lipoic acid.  It recycles the antioxidants in your system.  Think of your system like an engine and free radicals are like "rust" in your lines.  Keep em clear.

4.  Pomegranate juice.  Its been shown to reduce plaque, it literally melts it away.  Google it, research it.

5.  Green tea.  Not only does it hydrate you better but it thins the blood.

6.  Baby asprin.  162mg a day.  Reduces inflammation and thins the blood as well, helping prevent clotting.

7.  Fish oil.

8.  EXERCISE!  30 minutes a day if you can.  Not only will you drop weight but you make your heart stronger.

9.  Watch your waist.  If your waist size is over 40 (or 35 for a female), you are at greater risk.

And finally (can you tell I've researched this heavily?)...cholesterol is just one aspect of heart disease.  While its good to reduce cholesterol, what's your blood pressure?  High blood pressure does more damage than the high cholesterol (or so I have read).  Remember, people with low cholesterol have heart attacks too. 

Finally, have you had your blood checked for any genetic variations?  My family has the Luten V factor thing ,which just means our blood is apt to go overboard clotting a cut.  Its something we need to let Dr's know before any surgery, etc.

Let us know how you make out on your next test.



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Re: Cholesterol Anybody?
« Reply #37 on: June 20, 2008, 08:01:54 AM »
In my case the cure was worse than the problem.I try and handle the situation by watching my diet,and exercising.Simivastin was slowy killing me.I think all the anti-chloresteral drugs are poison.
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« Reply #38 on: June 20, 2008, 08:08:41 AM »
Good thread for the young guys to read, might I add.

Toad and I have posted back and forth about this a lot.  I have high cholesterol, just inheritied.  French ancestry.  I figure we all have veins full of gravy or something.  My family history shows us stroking out in our 70s to 80s, so we do not have a "terrible" history.  Those that went sooner were smokers.  And of course, knowing what we know now kind of thing.

It wasn't until a coworker had a heart attack that something scared the heck out of me.  He was a 2-pack a day smoker, no exercise and out fast food a lot.  He was an on-the-road copier repair guy and went home one night, got the cold sweats and called 911.  He survived and is alright now, but what freaked me out was he was on 42 or so when this happened.  For whatever reason, at 34, this to me was like lightening striking a few feet away from you.  It was time to see what could happen if you do not take care of yourself, so smarten up!

My cholesterol wasnt terrible, always in the 220s with the HDL in the mid 50s.  Trigs 99.  But once they lowered the bar to 200, suddenly I went from slightly high to this new approach of OMG-GET-IT-LOWER.

I did really well on Lipitor, dropping it to 162 but I ached and ached from that med. I tried many of Toad's suggestions and changed the diet radically since 2004.  With my Dr's help, we tried as many non-medical ways to lower it, including niacin.  If you ever wanted to know what a woman goes through with hotflashes, niacin is your trip!  That made my HDL (good stuff) soar, but for me, it brought the other stuff up too.  I did niacin for 4 months and got tested twice, I was 270 and 285.  Not where we want to go!

Since then, I'm on pravastatin and do not get the aching.  (Vytorin made my back feel like I went 9 rounds with George Foreman)  My last few tests have steadily gone down, I hit 199 in Jan (HDL 52) but burbled up to 213 in March (HDL 55).  My doctor upped my statin from 10mg to 20mg to push me under 200.

Working at a hospital is quite an enlightening experience.  I walk by the cath lab daily and I cringe when I see guys in their 30s and 40s in there.  Thankfully, for employees, they offer a lot of free screenings for stroke prevention and the like.  While I have never had the resources to do a heart scan like Toad did, I was able to get a free ultrasound of my cartoid arteries (neck) and I came up all clear.  Most insurances will cover a good deal of preventative care items, so ask your doctor what's available.

If you are into reading about these things, I would suggest the Dr Oz book "You: The Owner's Manual" amongst others.

A few nutritional tips I would pass along...

1.  Do a daily vitamin.  I like the GNC Heart Health Vita-packets.

2.  If you take a statin, consider adding CoQ10 supplements since its an important heart health item and statins turn off that enzyme to slow cholesterol protection.  I take 100mg in the morning and another at night.

3.  Alpha Lipoic acid.  It recycles the antioxidants in your system.  Think of your system like an engine and free radicals are like "rust" in your lines.  Keep em clear.

4.  Pomegranate juice.  Its been shown to reduce plaque, it literally melts it away.  Google it, research it.

5.  Green tea.  Not only does it hydrate you better but it thins the blood.

6.  Baby asprin.  162mg a day.  Reduces inflammation and thins the blood as well, helping prevent clotting.

7.  Fish oil.

8.  EXERCISE!  30 minutes a day if you can.  Not only will you drop weight but you make your heart stronger.

9.  Watch your waist.  If your waist size is over 40 (or 35 for a female), you are at greater risk.

And finally (can you tell I've researched this heavily?)...cholesterol is just one aspect of heart disease.  While its good to reduce cholesterol, what's your blood pressure?  High blood pressure does more damage than the high cholesterol (or so I have read).  Remember, people with low cholesterol have heart attacks too. 

Finally, have you had your blood checked for any genetic variations?  My family has the Luten V factor thing ,which just means our blood is apt to go overboard clotting a cut.  Its something we need to let Dr's know before any surgery, etc.

Let us know how you make out on your next test.






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Re: Cholesterol Anybody?
« Reply #39 on: June 20, 2008, 01:48:37 PM »

Baby asprin.  162mg a day.  Reduces inflammation and thins the blood as well, helping prevent clotting.

Most baby aspirin is 81 mg. Taking aspirin daily increases risk of gastrointestinal bleeding and perforation, so check with your doctor first to see if your risk of coronary artery disease is high enough to offset the risk of GI bleeding (it's not for everybody).
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