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Offline angelsandair

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Re: So I've been watching the news lately and...
« Reply #60 on: June 20, 2008, 08:43:27 PM »
I have spent a lot of time in New Orleans before the hurricane and after and I live in Iowa. In my judgement its not a white thing or a black thing its an attitude thing.

  In the Midwest we know the police aren't going to leave their jobs when we need them most. When the National Guard comes in they can spend time on the disaster not maintaining order. 

 The officials and all the residents of New Orleans all knew they were in a danger zone. They knew that a direct hit would be catastrophic. Every time I was in New Orleans it was mentioned. Blame the officials in New Orleans. The police became part of the problem. The elected officials were slow to react. Criminally slow.

 Where were the local officials when the hurricane struck? There was little national help for 3 or 4 days after the hurricane. George Bush sends a memo then goes on fund raising tour, that's not leadership...He tours the damage from a airplane 3(5) days later? The governor (Dem) in reference to the superdome "Don't send them relief, they won't want to leave"

 Put the partisan politics aside. It was a failure of government. At every level. And given that the citizens held no one accountable it will happen again. In Iowa we still had a government that worked.

The Levee broke 2 days after the hurricane was over. Bush didn't need to come down as quickly until he found out that happened. I'm pretty sure things were under a bit more control than they were after the leveys broke.
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Re: So I've been watching the news lately and...
« Reply #61 on: June 20, 2008, 09:39:43 PM »
Also, don't use ... in your sentences.  That's not what its for.


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Re: So I've been watching the news lately and...
« Reply #62 on: June 20, 2008, 11:16:53 PM »
for me using ........................helps to emphasize a dramatic pause........................ ...........as if to make..................a...... ...........profound.......... ........................point .
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Re: So I've been watching the news lately and...
« Reply #63 on: June 20, 2008, 11:30:59 PM »
It....also................... ......reminds................ ............................. ............................. .........................me a lot.......................... ............................. ...of...Nash.  Sorry, got lost in thought there.
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Re: So I've been watching the news lately and...
« Reply #64 on: June 21, 2008, 08:55:44 AM »
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Re: So I've been watching the news lately and...
« Reply #65 on: June 21, 2008, 10:13:36 AM »
The Levee broke 2 days after the hurricane was over. Bush didn't need to come down as quickly until he found out that happened. I'm pretty sure things were under a bit more control than they were after the leveys broke.


Maybe you should take some time and "read" the history time line of the storm, because you don't seem to know as much as you think you know. Here I'll help you out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Hurricane_Katrina

Area's of the city were already under 10 ft of water the day the storm hit, the levies were broken and flooding the city the day the storm hit not two days later. Maybe you should really read a bit and learn what "actually" happened before you make blanket judgments on people when you know so little about what happened to them.

It took a week to get the first levie secured to the point they could start pumping water out. It also took from Monday the day the storm hit, to the following Thursday to evacuate the people stranded in the Superdome.
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Re: So I've been watching the news lately and...
« Reply #66 on: June 21, 2008, 10:21:04 AM »

 It also took from Monday the day the storm hit, to the following Thursday to evacuate the people stranded in the Superdome.



Yeah....it gets a little dicey when people are shooting at rescue choppers and rescue vehicles, etc.
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Re: So I've been watching the news lately and...
« Reply #67 on: June 21, 2008, 10:25:26 AM »

Yeah....it gets a little dicey when people are shooting at rescue choppers and rescue vehicles, etc.

Yea why was that? Humm could it be maybe because there was no order? No police, no national guard?
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Re: So I've been watching the news lately and...
« Reply #68 on: June 21, 2008, 10:35:45 AM »
Yea why was that? Humm could it be maybe because there was no order? No police, no national guard?
Nah, the guard was convoying North out of the destruction zone and the police that kept their uniforms on were rolling around looting convenience stores and confiscating guns from law abiders.
All this while bodies were rotting in plain view of world media.  The state government failed tragically, they should have been prepared, the local municipalities failed in every regard, they should have had a plan to deal with the disaster...instead everyone was loitering around the stadium for bush the george to finish a round of golf and send brownies.  Was the most disgusting spectacle I have seen as a citizen of this country
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Re: So I've been watching the news lately and...
« Reply #69 on: June 21, 2008, 11:03:07 AM »
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Re: So I've been watching the news lately and...
« Reply #70 on: June 21, 2008, 11:11:31 AM »
Yea why was that? Humm could it be maybe because there was no order? No police, no national guard?


No, it was because the roving bands and idiots were morons.
Make all the excuses you wish.
There is just no denying the facts.
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Re: So I've been watching the news lately and...
« Reply #71 on: June 21, 2008, 12:52:10 PM »

No, it was because the roving bands and idiots were morons.
Make all the excuses you wish.
There is just no denying the facts.
You can`t make cherry pie out of lemons.

You know..Some crazy guy out west a few years ago welded up his bulldozer with plate steal and bulldozed a small town. Then of course we have the Oklahoma Federal Building bombing. I mean I guess from a few people's actions we could say.. hey better watch out those Folks in the Mid West they support terrorism.
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Re: So I've been watching the news lately and...
« Reply #72 on: June 21, 2008, 01:10:56 PM »
Yea why was that? Humm could it be maybe because there was no order? No police, no national guard?

No because they were withdrawing for meth alcohol and other Illegal drugs!!
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Re: So I've been watching the news lately and...
« Reply #73 on: June 21, 2008, 02:18:53 PM »
How exactlly would you sand bag miles of levies? It's one thing to sandbag a dam or a small location, but you do understand there are miles of levies in New Orleans? So exactlly where did you expect them to start?

The difference isn't about sand bagging.  It's about one groups reaction being "get to work" and the other group holding thier hands out.

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Re: So I've been watching the news lately and...
« Reply #74 on: June 21, 2008, 02:19:25 PM »
... Was the most disgusting spectacle I have seen as a citizen of this country...


...worse that The Golden Girls?