If you keep in mind that the main character's RL person still lives, and that the the mob characters (Joe Pesci + Screen brother) were the Spilatro brothers out of the Chicago/St. Louis/Kansas City mob it really makes sense.I grew up in Waukegan, IL and when I was a kid, hits were a once a week occurance. Someone would end up dead in the trunk of a car set on fire in a forest preserve. The manager would be shot mafia style in the parking lot of the only local "all nude" dancing club. (About 3 times a year)People whould be shot in the back of the head and wash up on the shore of Lake Michigan. A childhood friend of mine "caught" one while fishing at the lake.Pretty much all of these come back to the Spilatro character in the film.He was the biggest "muscle" the Chicago (South Side up to Waukegan, Including Highland Park, and west out to Libertyville) mafia had. After he left for Las Vegas, the hits dropped off.After he and his brother were "Hit" and buried in Indiana...there was a period of "down time". After 6 months, the hits started up again.You'd be surprised the high profile and movie stars that showed up to the Spilatro Brothers funeral. Some of the guys who killed them showed up too.That's the life.ROX
The opening is GREAT -"...a lot of holes in the desert, and a lot of peoples problems fill those holes..."
Ahhh crap. Now I'll have to watch it again, I missed the opening 20 minutes.
??? I thought you said you watched it?You even see how or why they got out there?was it an edited version you saw?
I said I watched it. I didn't watch the first 20 minutes. It was 4 hours long (editted version) on TV.
I can't imagine the edited for TV version even loosely resembles the original.
I wouldn't know, but they had to do alot of creative word editting! (frick instead of "if you see Kay", etc.) Good movie, but I rarely have the patience to sit down and watch a movie so I doubt I'll rent it. Just happened that I stayed up to midnight watching this one (rare)
You missed more than just the language, the entire movie was pretty raw. Perhaps it was better being toned several notches but definitely not the same movie.
# Martin Scorsese stated before the film's release that he created the "head in the vise" scene as a sacrifice, certain the MPAA would insist it be cut. He hoped this would draw fire away from other violent scenes that would seem less so by comparison. When the MPAA made no objection to the vise scene, he left it in, albeit slightly edited.
The "head in a vice" scene is taken from an anecdote in the book "Casino" unrelated to the main story, describing mob enforcer Tony Spilotro's interrogation of a low-level gangster named Billy McCarthy, who had committed the unauthorized murder on the Scalvo Brothers, a pair of high-ranking mobsters within Spilotro's crime organization. Trying to get McCarthy to give up the identity of the man who helped him kill the Scalvos, Spilotro first beat McCarthy, then stabbed him in the testicles with an icepick, before finally shoving his head in a vice and crunching it to five inches wide; McCarthy didn't give up the name of his partner, Jimmy Miraglia, until Spilotro tightened the vice in such a way that one of Billy's eyes popped out. Amazingly, McCarthy survived the head-crushing long enough for Spilotro to kill him by dousing him in lighter fluid and setting him ablaze. Spilotro would remark later in life, "Billy McCarthy was the toughest guy I ever met." (Jimmy Miraglia was subsequently shot dead and put in the trunk of his own car along with Billy's corpse).
I suspect Deep Throat would be a different movie if edited for TV also.
