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Re: Greatest moment in Baseball..evah
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2008, 12:32:41 PM »
Baseball died in the mid-80's IIRC.
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Re: Greatest moment in Baseball..evah
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2008, 12:35:36 PM »
I got that vid yesterday...then I got this:



Has anyone emailed you a link to that awesome footage of the ball girl making a stunning catch in foul territory during a minor league baseball game between the Fresno Grizzlies and the Tacoma Rainiers?
    The video has been making the rounds on the Internet and likely fooling a lot of people, but what we are seeing is, in fact, staged. It is actually a viral video for Gatorade titled "Ball Girl" that was created by Chicago's Element 79 Partners and directed by Baker Smith of harvest, Santa Monica.
    In a cluttered environment full of viral work that isn't really viral (too many agencies are just slapping TV commercials up on YouTube these days and expecting them to go viral), "Ball Girl" stands out as being a true viral video, a seemingly authentic piece of compelling footage that looks like it was cut right out of a real ball game.
    Meanwhile, "Ball Girl" hits a homerun for product integration. In a subtle but certainly noticeable case of product placement, there is a bottle of Gatorade on the ground next to the chair the ball girl sits in after making her great play.
    SHOOT sought an interview with the creative team from Element 79 responsible for conceptualizing "Ball Girl," but as of press time, the agency had not gained permission from its client PepsiCo to speak about the thinking behind the viral. As you may recall, PepsiCo pulled creative duties on Gatorade from Element 79 this past April, awarding the account to TBWA\Chiat\Day, Los Angeles. Element 79 had handled Gatorade for six years.
    Smith was able to discuss the production end of the project, of course, explaining that he and DP Eric Treml shot "Ball Girl" on location during and after an actual game between the aforementioned Fresno Grizzlies and Tacoma Rainiers that took place in Fresno.
    Essentially, they shot coverage of the game on HD and later pieced it together to look as though one of the Grizzlies batters had whacked a ball of homerun distance out past the left field foul line.
    "The big shot, the one that follows the ball out [from the plate to left field], was completely choreographed for lack of a better word," Smith said, explaining that a motion control shot followed what would have been the trajectory of the ball, and the artisans at New York's Framestore CFC later inserted a ball in post.

Golden glove
    As for how the ball girl (played by stuntwoman Phoenix Brown) made the spectacular catch that is the highlight of the video, she got a little help from rigs and Framestore CFC.
    Smith and his crew shot the big catch right after the game they were shooting concluded, attaching the ball girl to wires and having two stunt men off to the side literally yanking her up the wall.
    "It was so low-tech," Smith said of the stunt. "We had her run, and she would jump, and they just gave her a little extra oomph. It was really very, very simple."
That said, there was choreography involved. Smith had marks for the ball girl to hit.
    "We were trying to have her emulate those Parkour guys in France," Smith said, making reference to a street sport and art form that has participants moving about various environments—from apartment buildings to public parks—propelling their bodies off of walls, stairs and railings.

Keeping it simple
    "Of all the effects stuff I've ever done in my life, this was the biggest no-brainer as far as how to do it," Smith said, crediting Framestore CFC with not pressuring him to go more CG and hi-tech with his approach.
    "They were just fantastic," Smith said of the visual effects shop. "They are of the mind that you figure out how you want to do it, then they'll make it look good as opposed to certain places that say, 'You have to do it this way.' That can be a bit stifling. But [Framestore] said, 'Tell us how you want it to be, and shoot it the way you want, and we'll make it work.' "
    From a visual effects point of view, the job was straightforward, according to Framestore executive producer James Razzell. "The main challenge was rig removal for us," Razzell said. As previously noted, Framestore also created an animated ball. Crowd enhancement was also required.
    Was Razzell disappointed that the job didn't involve more CG elements?
    "Baker's goal and the agency's goal was for it to be something that looked like it actually happened rather than it being some house of flying daggers with her leaping forty feet in the air," Razzell said laughing.
    "I think [the realism] is what really sells it. It really feels like she has scaled the wall even from the alternative, slo-motion angle."
    Paul Martinez and Charlie Johnston of Lost Planet, Santa Monica, cut "Ball Girl," which, appropriately, ends abruptly. Smith noted that someone taping this game at home and then posting it online likely wouldn't have the tools to do a fade out, so the sudden end made sense. Furthermore, it added to the pulled-from-TV quality of the video.
    Reflecting on the job, Smith remarked, "It's funny. Having done this from twenty years, it's gone from the ultimate compliment to a director being, 'That's so cinematic' to it being, 'Hey, that looks kind of crappy like a viral video!' "


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Re: Greatest moment in Baseball..evah
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2008, 12:39:05 PM »
Yeah... hope you didn't think that was real Tac.
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Re: Greatest moment in Baseball..evah
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2008, 01:04:29 PM »
The REAL greatest moment in Baseball...

Kirk Gibson's Homer in 1988 series.

Which to my amazement is not on YouTube?


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Re: Greatest moment in Baseball..evah
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2008, 01:07:50 PM »
The REAL greatest moment in Baseball...

Kirk Gibson's Homer in 1988 series.

I'd have to agree with that.

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Re: Greatest moment in Baseball..evah
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2008, 01:09:42 PM »
http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l189/angrysasquatch/?action=view&current=Ballgirl.flv


I mean.. you just cant beat that. :D :aok

I like the guy standing there after being out hustled by the ball girl...

 :rofl

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Re: Greatest moment in Baseball..evah
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Re: Greatest moment in Baseball..evah
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2008, 02:43:54 PM »
That's funny, because if I had not read edog's post I never would have seen the bottle of Gatorade at the end of that.  Is someone supposed to notice it?

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Re: Greatest moment in Baseball..evah
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2008, 02:54:49 PM »
what is this "baseball" thing you speak of?

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Re: Greatest moment in Baseball..evah
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2008, 03:01:52 PM »
what is this "baseball" thing you speak of?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ_Wr4aUaxU

And if you're Korean, charging the pitchers mound, there is certain criteria you must do before taking a swing at the pitcher!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZSJJYbh9sU
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Re: Greatest moment in Baseball..evah
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2008, 04:47:29 PM »
Kirk Gibson in 1984 was better.    88 was good, but he always liked the "Tigers more".    I got to talk to him on a couple of occasions while passing by in Tiger Stadium.   One of the friendliest guys I've ever talked too.   

Of course, there might be a video out there of him going to the dugout in 1984 after the fans rushed the field.   Kirk hauled off and cold-cocked a fan.   
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Re: Greatest moment in Baseball..evah
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2008, 05:17:25 PM »
I'm going to have to go with Don Larsen's perfect game in game 5 of the '56 World Series.  That is just magical on all levels.
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Re: Greatest moment in Baseball..evah
« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2008, 05:28:24 PM »
Greatest Moment in Baseball Ruths called shot during the World Series against the Cubs.

Mays catch in Centerfield in the 54 World Series.

1947 when Jackie Robinson came to the majors with the Brooklyn Dodgers.

Smokey Joe Woods and Walter Johnson facing one another both with winstreaks of something like 13 straight games.

The Pittsburgh Pirates deciding to watch the 1927 Yankees take batting practice before the first game of the 27 World Series.
The Pirates lost 4 straight.

Any of the above.  Learn some History of the game then you can make comparisons on a large scale not just what happened within the last 20 years  ;)  Baseball has been around for a long time....the last 30 years or better we've been watching watered down talent coming with a limited time in the Minors and in no way ready to play quality Major League Baseball as it was played 40 to 50 and many more years ago. Then there were 8 teams in the AL and 8 in the NL.

75% of the players today would be working in the coal mines and farm fields 40 to 50 years ago.  Players did not come up from the minors usually UNLESS they were 25 to 26 years old.  They were ready to play ball.  Name me 10 guys that can bunt now and bunt well.

George "shotgun" Shuba came up in 1955 to the Brooklyn Dodgers.  He constantly hit over .300 and hit 20 to 30 HR's a year but could not break the Dodgers everyday lineup!  Who was he going to replace???   Duke Snyder???  Carl Furillo?  Jackie Robinson? -> (who played 1st base, Left Field and 2nd)  So he stayed in the minors.  I believe he was a 28 year old Rookie (think age is close) That is only one example....there are many more.
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Re: Greatest moment in Baseball..evah
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2008, 05:46:36 PM »
Good god people.....

The greastest happening in Baseball was when the whole basball team came walking out of the corn onto the field. I mean ...you can't just think this stuff up.... ;)
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