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SCOTUSblog - HELLER - Be there or Be square!
« on: June 26, 2008, 08:33:46 AM »
http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/

OK, it's HELLER TIME! 

The SCOTUSBLOG is up and open, opinions will start coming out right after 10 AM Eastern time. This is as close to real time as you'll get.

Will it be 7-2 for an Individual Right? 6-3? 5-4? 

Will the court libs unite to support the militia only claim?

Will it be a majority opinion or a pluralilty?

Enjoy!
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Re: SCOTUSblog - Be there or Be square!
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2008, 08:47:25 AM »
bingie told us that it will not even concern individual rights.. that all that will be decided is how much you can restrict the national guard.

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Re: SCOTUSblog - HELLER - Be there or Be square!
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2008, 08:49:06 AM »
Whatever happened to Bingo? What shade does he use now?

Or did he pick up his marbles and go home?
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Re: SCOTUSblog - HELLER - Be there or Be square!
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2008, 08:51:22 AM »
I think you were mean to him and he simply got tired of looking like a lying buffoon.

He didn't get tired of it too quickly tho.  Lot of endurance considering...  Like a mule.

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Re: SCOTUSblog - HELLER - Be there or Be square!
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2008, 08:54:00 AM »
I know I'll get slammed for this but I've said it before and I'll say it again.

After removing the extreme ends of the Bell Curve, the lib side is the least tolerant of other opinions.

It's reflected in the various lib meltdowns we've had here (remember ole even tempered Nash?) and it's reflected in things like the "Fairness Doctrine" thread.



Pardon me, I need to go get my flame suit.
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Re: SCOTUSblog - HELLER - Be there or Be square!
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2008, 08:55:58 AM »
Check out the 4 poll questions at the bottom of the blog!   :rock
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Re: SCOTUSblog - HELLER - Be there or Be square!
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2008, 08:57:47 AM »
I know I'll get slammed for this but I've said it before and I'll say it again.

After removing the extreme ends of the Bell Curve, the lib side is the least tolerant of other opinions.

It's reflected in the various lib meltdowns we've had here (remember ole even tempered Nash?) and it's reflected in things like the "Fairness Doctrine" thread.



Pardon me, I need to go get my flame suit.






liberals all have the same two traits:

be against the norm......no matter what the norm is.
generally feel as if you are a victim.

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Re: SCOTUSblog - Be there or Be square!
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2008, 09:02:59 AM »
bingie told us that it will not even concern individual rights.. that all that will be decided is how much you can restrict the national guard.

lazs

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there are still allowed arms of the militia a rifle or hunting gun so the right is not infringed.   
Now a forced gun lock restrict, that right? ehhh...


Is what I said we'll seee in about an hour.

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Re: SCOTUSblog - HELLER - Be there or Be square!
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2008, 09:03:35 AM »
liberals are all smiles and calm until you disagree with them.. then they get firm and make stuff up.. if you call em on it they become furious and the spittle and name calling really gets intense.   if you tell em to STFU...

They walk away and start working behind your back to get their way by force of law..  like the fairness doctrine for example.

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« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2008, 09:05:25 AM »
you said a lot of things.. one of which.. the most important.. was that individual right had nothing to do with it and that it would hinge on what the militia was.  you felt that the only militia was the national guard.

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Re: SCOTUSblog - HELLER - Be there or Be square!
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2008, 09:13:48 AM »
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10:12 Tom Goldstein -  Heller affirmed. 

10:13 Ben Winograd -   
The Court has released the opinion in District of Columbia v. Heller (07-290), on whether the District’s firearms regulations – which bar the possession of handguns and require shotguns and rifles to be kept disassembled or under trigger lock – violate the Second Amendment. The ruling below, which struck down the provisions in question, is affirmed.   

 

Justice Scalia wrote the opinion. Justice Breyer dissented, joined by Justices Stevens, Souter and Ginsburg. We will provide a link to the decision as soon as it is available.
 

10:13 Tom Goldstein -  Second  Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm. 
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Re: SCOTUSblog - HELLER - Be there or Be square!
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2008, 09:13:53 AM »
INDIVIDUAL RIGHT!  Go SCOTUS!

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Re: SCOTUSblog - HELLER - Be there or Be square!
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2008, 09:15:41 AM »
5-4 ruling.

The chowderheads remain chowderheads. I thought given the oral arguments it would be 6-3 at worst.

This is a time where, despite all his truckups, I am glad Bush was in the seat when it came time to appoint two new justices.
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Re: SCOTUSblog - HELLER - Be there or Be square!
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2008, 09:17:03 AM »
Thank you.
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Re: SCOTUSblog - HELLER - Be there or Be square!
« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2008, 09:17:31 AM »
yeah, just noticed that...  5-4's suprising...  :(