Author Topic: Is Al Qaeda stupid?  (Read 836 times)

Offline Captain Virgil Hilts

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Re: Is Al Qaeda stupid?
« Reply #30 on: June 26, 2008, 12:26:16 PM »
I never said that. And the thread is being hijacked. I said China doesnt have the military capability to project power much past its borders. And certainly not the middle east. Saddam had a huge numbers advantage over us and what good did it do him? Unlike him I understand modern war, and the Chinese certainly understand it better then I. And stop babbling about contingency planning. I never said anything of the sort.

Im done with this nonsense and am going back to topic.

YOU specifically said China COULD NOT take Taiwan. I disagree. China may not have the ability to project power globally in the manner and with the ease that the U.S. can, but your position that we can contain them easily is not supported by the facts.
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Offline FrodeMk3

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Re: Is Al Qaeda stupid?
« Reply #31 on: June 26, 2008, 12:55:02 PM »
Except that during Korea there was rough parity of weapons quality.

They arent "keeping pace" they are "stealing it". And please name these missile guidance parts they are selling us. About everything high tech they have has been stolen or bought from us, the Euros, or the Russians.


So what? They will take two years to get them there? And once the first batch gets there what do they do? How could they possibly even get past their 3 mile territorial strip without getting blasted by the USN? My God they cant even take a crummy little Island off their own coast and you have them marching off to fight a peasants war 5,000 miles away. They dont even have the transport capability to take Taiwan which is 90 miles away. How the heck can they attack the oil producing regions in the MidEast?

They dont have Americas transport fleets, our carrier battle groups, our long range bombers, our submarines, our high tech, networked, worldwide, strike capability. 1/2 of China is still crapping in outhouses. They dont have the capability to project power past their borders! Or much past them!

Your statement was silly and not based in reality. Get over it.


The Chinese are a source for magnets used in superconductors. As a matter of fact, I read somewhere that they were used in Patriot missiles. Your right about them stealing everything; However, in Korea, If what I have been told by vets' is true, about half of the "human wave" assaulters' weren't even armed with firearms-Lots' of them had pitchforks, or shovels.

They are only waiting for the right time for Taiwan: http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/space/01/18/china.missile/index.html

Taiwan is close enough for long-range Tube artillery to hit it. They don't need fleet's of massive LCT's and LCI's to make it over. They could do it in small boats, if they so wished.

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Low Earth-orbit satellites have become indispensable for U.S. military communications, GPS navigation for smart bombs and troops, and for real-time surveillance. The Chinese test highlights the satellites' vulnerability.

"If we, for instance, got into a conflict over Taiwan, one of the first things they'd probably do would be to shoot down all of our lower Earth-orbit spy satellites, putting out our eyes," said John Pike of globalsecurity.org, a Web site that compiles information on worldwide security issues.

"The thing that is surprising and disturbing is that [the Chinese] have chosen this moment to demonstrate a military capability that can only be aimed at the United States," he said.

They are patient, And my guess is they will see this through.

These are also things' that they are willing to sell. Imagine what would happen if Al-Queda used some of these to blind us in the ME, right before staging an attack? How many of our Hi-tech systems' get sidelined when that happens?

I don't believe the Chinese will intervene directly in the ME unless their oil supply becomes seriously threatened. Anything else they do, they will fight by proxy-Maybe give arms, money, and training to Al-Queda, or anyone else who actively opposes us.
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Offline Rich46yo

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Re: Is Al Qaeda stupid?
« Reply #32 on: June 26, 2008, 01:02:59 PM »
YOU specifically said China COULD NOT take Taiwan. I disagree. China may not have the ability to project power globally in the manner and with the ease that the U.S. can, but your position that we can contain them easily is not supported by the facts.

Start a separate thread and I'll be more then happy to disagree with you. But no more hijacking this one.
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Offline Captain Virgil Hilts

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Re: Is Al Qaeda stupid?
« Reply #33 on: June 26, 2008, 01:41:54 PM »
Start a separate thread and I'll be more then happy to disagree with you. But no more hijacking this one.

You started the argument. You hijacked the thread. And then you attempt to set rules. And abandon your position. Go ahead. Run.
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Offline dirtdart

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Re: Is Al Qaeda stupid?
« Reply #34 on: June 26, 2008, 03:22:47 PM »
Whatever their motivation for destabilizing Saudi Arabia I find it interesting how effective the Saudi government was in rounding up 700 conspirators. Spreading hatred for the US and destabilizing other countries is one thing, hindering oil production in Saudi Arabia is apparently quite another.

Wonder if these guys will have it as good as their buds at Gitmo?

Well, after the last supreme court decision, the spa will be opening in the fall.  It is also what a nice round number 700 is.  Every see "Paths of Glory" with Kurt Douglas?  They have a battalion draw lots so three guys can be shot for cowardice...... 

Spreading hatred for the US is too easy for those guys, your a dealing with a largely uneducated group and their faith does not allow them the flexibility to question what their leaders (et al) are saying.
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