Ammo-load out option for 109K4?

[angelsandair]

Could we get the 20mm ammo load out option for the 109K-4 and when you up and land kills, it's counted as a 109G-10? I know the 30mm tater is great and all, but the 20mm (and gondolas?) can do a bit more than the 30mm IMO.

I found an old copy of AHI and I was playing it with the 109G10 and I personally really really liked it. I dont care if we get the actual G-10 or not, I just want the 20mm options for it.

[Motherland]

The 109K4 was never equipped with the MG151/20, as by the time it was introduced the Luftwaffe was much more concerned with Allied bombers than their fighters, and the Mk108 was much more effective in that role.

The G10 didn't perform as well as the K4. IIRC it would perform more or less like the G6 or G14 at low altitudes and only get a performance boost at high altitudes- the K4 performs better at high altitudes as well, but it also has better low altitude performance than the G14.

I'd like a G10 or G6/AS myself.

[angelsandair]

Personally, I'd just like the 20mm load out option for it, then it's called a G-10 (name changes, load out changes, skin changes...)

[Motherland]

Personally, I'd just like the 20mm load out option for it, then it's called a G-10 (name changes, load out changes, skin changes...)

No, it's not, because the performance was different. I thought I made that pretty clear.

[angelsandair]

No, it's not, because the performance was different. I thought I made that pretty clear.

What-ever floats your boat. I like the 109G6, it just seems to lack a good bit at-alt.

[Motherland]

Which is why I'd like the Bf.109G10 or Bf.109G6/AS, which were designed for high altitude operations and carried the MG151/20.
But the Bf.109K4 should simply not be given the MG151/20 load out as it never carried it.

[angelsandair]

I know that, read my other posts, just re-name it, change some stuff on it.  If you have to change everything...

[Motherland]

Perhaps you should read your own posts, or better explain what you mean? You said that with a loadout change the plane would be renamed Bf.109G-10 when you land and that different skins would have to be available, NOT that it's performance would change in any way.

If you are suggesting that engine performance, drastic weight differences, and skin selections would change with the loadout choice, why would HTC just not add the Bf.109G10 as a separate aircraft?

[angelsandair]

Perhaps you should read your own posts, or better explain what you mean? You said that with a loadout change the plane would be renamed Bf.109G-10 when you land and that different skins would have to be available, NOT that it's performance would change in any way.

If you are suggesting that engine performance, drastic weight differences, and skin selections would change with the loadout choice, why would HTC just not add the Bf.109G10 as a separate aircraft?

IIRC I remember reading on how the G-10 was almost the exact same as the K-4, just different armament. I'll go dig up the thread for ya if I can.

It doesnt matter for me, I just want a high-alt 109 with 20mms and 13mm MG's. I'm not a good enough shot with the Mk-108 to shoot effectively.

[Motherland]

IIRC I remember reading on how the G-10 was almost the exact same as the K-4, just different armament. I'll go dig up the thread for ya if I can.

It doesnt matter for me, I just want a high-alt 109 with 20mms and 13mm MG's. I'm not a good enough shot with the Mk-108 to shoot effectively.

No, the way it was modeled in Aces High I the G10 was basically a K4, but in real life the K4 performed better, or, I should say, the G10 performed worse.

[angelsandair]

No, the way it was modeled in Aces High I the G10 was basically a K4, but in real life the K4 performed better, or, I should say, the G10 performed worse.

Ohh okay. I got my hands on an old version of AHI and the G-10 seemed just like the K4. Still, I want the G-10 dont matter to me.

[TUXC]

Ohh okay. I got my hands on an old version of AHI and the G-10 seemed just like the K4. Still, I want the G-10 dont matter to me.

You are correct that the g-10 used to be in the game and was essentially the k-4 we have now with a 20mm and gondola option. However, the way the g-10 was modeled when it used to be in the game was inaccurate. The real g-10 was very similar to the k-4, but was slower at all altitudes with a similar top speed to the g-14 up to around 16000ft.

[angelsandair]

ahh okay.