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Offline Fishu

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Fuel usage of Fw190 with 2 and 4 20mm
« on: December 31, 1999, 02:10:00 AM »
Seems like Fw190 with 2x20mm has somewhat same fuel usage as it had before (about 50% fuel in DT left at 20k), but 4x20mm that 20k requires as much as 80% from drop tank.
Where from does this big difference come between two gun sets?
I doubt that 4x20mm weights more than drop tank (300L drop tank, maybe 350kg - 700lbs)

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Fuel usage of Fw190 with 2 and 4 20mm
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 1999, 02:23:00 AM »
Fishu I just finished reading this on CombatSim.  Go Figure...

P51-D
   
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The "D" was preceded by the "B" in action and any "B" shortcomings were addressed in it. A bubble canopy and cut-down rear fuselage vastly improved visibility. Two more .50 caliber machine guns were added for a total of six. With a range of 2,000 miles it could stay with the "big friends" all the way to Berlin and beyond.

The 1,695 h.p. Packard-built Merlin V-12 propelled it to 437 m.p.h. at 25,000 feet. Its ceiling was 41,900 feet and rate of climb of 3,200 feet per minute. With a competent pilot it was able to maneuver with most any German plane though classic dogfights were rare. The Mustang truly owned the air over Germany and many Luftwaffe pilots were very apprehensive of engaging them in a one on one basis.

Me109-G6
   
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Its 1,475 h.p. Diamler-Benz direct port fuel injected V-12 gave it a top speed of 387 m.p.h. at 22,970 feet. The plane's ceiling was 39,750 feet with a climb rate of nearly 3,300 f.p.m. Range was only 615 miles at best. And with the extra gondola guns, maneuverability suffered.

FW190-A8
   
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The BMW 14 cylinder radial pumped out 2,100 h.p. with methanol-water injection. It did not have a high ceiling at 37,400 feet. Initial climb rate was 3,450 f.p.m., and in its element as a pure fighter it was splendid. The 190 had a high roll rate, better armament and could take more punishment than the BF 109, but possessed a range of only 500 miles. It was capable of carrying an 1,800 Kg bomb for a short distance and supplanted the effective but slow Ju 87 Stuka as a close support aircraft.

Under - "Heavy Metal: 7 Fighter Legends"
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BTW, I added the P-51 only for range and climb comparison.  I made no edits to these complete paragraphs, because I did not want the information to appear "Out of Context".  I am not attempting to taunt you in any fashion.  This time!  

Realizing the AH modeled A/C is the G10, I thought the range to the G6, described in the article, might be comparable.  However; what I really found fascinating was the "Shorter Legs" and higher climbrate, of the A8.

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Fuel usage of Fw190 with 2 and 4 20mm
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 1999, 02:23:00 PM »
Hehe, you can't climb AH 190a8 that fast even if you rip off all the extra weight with fuels to minimum, barely sees it for a second, then it falls to 3000fpm or less..
Btw. G10 doesnt nowadays climb even closely 3300fpm, go figure.. G6 did that, G10 should do more  

I think also that F4u has got a good kick in its bellybutton since last version.
hmm, allie planes gets better, LW planes gets even beyond realistic levels.. are those two sides from two different sides?

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Fuel usage of Fw190 with 2 and 4 20mm
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 1999, 02:23:00 PM »
Hehe, you can't climb AH 190a8 that fast even if you rip off all the extra weight with fuels to minimum, barely sees it for a second, then it falls to 3000fpm or less..
Btw. G10 doesnt nowadays climb even closely 3300fpm, go figure.. G6 did that, G10 should do more  

I think also that F4u has got a good kick in its bellybutton since last version.
hmm, allie planes gets better, LW planes gets even beyond realistic levels.. are those two sides from two different sims?

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Fuel usage of Fw190 with 2 and 4 20mm
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 1999, 09:20:00 PM »
Fishu;

Don't complain too loudly.  

You might up with a "SkyGrabbing A8", but the pilots always got to catch a taxi back to base.  

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