American commies are for Obama!

[MiloMorai]

"Competitive marketplace" is the thing that prevents inventions from spreading wide. Any totalitarian regime will organize mass-production much more effective and at cheaper price then any "free market" monopoly. Totalitarian Russian Empire got all it's large warships equipped with wireless telegraph by the time Marconi got his patent. Russian Navy was the first to use ECM in May 1905 at the battle of Tsushima

Just compare Soviet and American tanks before the War

The "Competitive marketplace" spurs on further 'inventions'.

Tell us about the Lada Boroda. The Russian Fiat was much worse than the Italian Fiat.

British Patents

* British patent No. 12,039, Date of Application 2 June 1896; Complete Specification Left, 2 March 1897; Accepted, 2 July 1897

U.S. Patent 0,586,193  "Transmitting electrical signals", (using Ruhmkorff coil and Morse code key) filed December 1896, patented July, 1897

In 1900 a radio station was established under Popov's instructions on Hogland island (Suursaari) to provide two-way communication by wireless telegraphy between the Russian naval base and the crew of the battleship General-Admiral Apraksin. The battleship ran aground on Hogland island in the Gulf of Finland in November, 1899. The crew of the Apraksin were not in immediate danger, but the water in the Gulf began to freeze. Due to bad weather and bureaucratic red tape, the crew of Apraksin did not arrive until January 1900 to establish a wireless station on Hogland Island. By February 5, however, messages were being received reliably.

Gee Boroda that is 2 years after Marconi got his patents.

[Casca]

Tell me you don't find Lasz's comment about murdering commies a Little disturbing?

Yeah I did...he left out hippies.

[Boroda]

Gee Boroda that is 2 years after Marconi got his patents.

Popov demostrated radio in 1895 in Russian Academy of Science. His works were immediately classified by Military Ministry.

With all it's drawbacks, totalitarian Russian Empire had state-of-the-art science and research.

[angelsandair]

there is a pendulum effect..  the fact that communism and strict socialism simply do not work is always the fuel for the pendulum swinging the other way..

soooo.. a bunch of commies in basements all plotting and working away are just foolish tools who really can't do anything but make tiny little changes and ride the pendulum.. when it swings their way they feel all jubilant and justified.. when not.. they drown their sorrows in their vodka and become bitter.

lazs

If Obama is elected, I'm moving to Israel. I'd go to Canada, but IIRC, they have very strict gun-laws. (please correct me if I'm wrong. As I don't wanna move all the way to Israel only to find out it isn't true.  )

[Boroda]

Nazi germany was not a western democracy.  It got into power through subversion of the democracy of the weimar republic.  Much like when Rome was changed into a dictatorship Roman Republic fell and it changed into the Roman Empire.  It went from being a partially democratic state to rule by one man.

Well, you mean that German people that elected nazis and their allies into Reichstag were forced to vote for them? As for me - it was a perfect example of your favourite Democracy, majority of Germans supported Hitler and really wanted to have some Russian/Polish/whatever slaves and a nice piece of land in Ukraine. Vox populi vox Dei, isn't it a sacred thing for a true Democracy?

[Holden McGroin]

Well, you mean that German people that elected nazis and their allies into Reichstag were forced to vote for them? As for me - it was a perfect example of your favourite Democracy, majority of Germans supported Hitler and really wanted to have some Russian/Polish/whatever slaves and a nice piece of land in Ukraine. Vox populi vox Dei, isn't it a sacred thing for a true Democracy?

The Nazis never achieved a majority in the Reichstag.  They formed a coaltion with the nationalists to achieve a working majority and Hindenburg passed the ‘Decree of the Reich President for the Protection of People and State’

To obtain 2/3 majority needed to change the constitution the Nazis carried a campaign of intimidation: they depicted opposition as unpatriotic / Nazis in the SA seized control of state Gov. / opponents in the SPD and trade unions were arrested / the building where the Reichstag was surrounded by SA and SS troops. This law granted Hitler the right to:

make laws w/out Reichstag approval
make treaties w/ foreign states w/out Reichstag approval

Hitler was now a dictator and no longer needed the support of political parties.

This is where the German democracy ceased and the totalitarian dictatorship began.

This is all pretty basic history...

[lasersailor184]

I love that some of you are defending the killing of American communists in the name of western/capitalist values... the contradiction is just painful, and it does a real disservice to the values that make the USA a great country.  So much for the 1st amendment.

Would you kill a man who tries to rob you in the middle of the night?

Would you kill a government man who tries to rob you in plain sight in the middle of the day?


The answer to both SHOULD be the same.  It also tells you a lot about the person.

[lazs2]

you commies need to realize that I was serious.. I would kill any commie that got into power here.   It is a religion of force and it's intent is to crush my spirit and my soul.

russian points out that I support communism through walmart.   this is different and it could be said that china is supporting capitalism because of walmart.   the more china sees of freedom and capitalism.. the less like bad old russia they are.  I will support anyone so long as it is my choice.   communism removes choice when it has power over you.

That is why they needed to build walls to keep people in.   If I am suffering from a 1952 version of what soviet russia was like then it is because they acted and act like the 1952 version..  why not just allow free trade and free travel both to and from if it is such a paradise?   Why not show the world how well the system works and how every russian had a big lada car and an armed secret police guy to drive it?

I own my own home.. couple of em..  I have a big old Lincoln towne car and 3 others...safe full of guns.. I can travel to any country I want.. I have a high school education and picked up the rest at night in pretty much free clases.   What would I be in soviet russia??  another guy making gloves with three thumbs for each glove.   and drowning my sorrows in lousy vodka.

Nope..  I would kill commies here because they would kill me to make me do as they wish.   If I resisted they would kill me.   

The normal idiot no nothing commie who has no power over me?  no.. I would not kill the poor idiot.   

lazs

[Russian]

Laz, ....you're for communist Chinese government but against Soviet government.....to me they are same.....in fact, Chinese right now are A LOT worse due to enormous influence over USA, something Soviets never had, and there is no way in hell China will attempt government change like Russia did...

[lazs2]

russian..  we will see.. you never had an open society or anything like one in the bad old days of soviet russia..

My 1952 version is one hell of a lot more accurate than you retro look at it and your comparing china to it.

china is becoming more capitalist because it is the superior system.. they have more access to the outside world than bad old russia ever had.  The internet and cable and cell phones..  all enemies of communism.

soviet version of communism depended on the poeple never knowing how good everyone else had it.  It depended on em not being able to get out.

lazs

[angelsandair]

Yeah I did...he left out hippies.

russian..  we will see.. you never had an open society or anything like one in the bad old days of soviet russia..

My 1952 version is one hell of a lot more accurate than you retro look at it and your comparing china to it.

china is becoming more capitalist because it is the superior system.. they have more access to the outside world than bad old russia ever had.  The internet and cable and cell phones..  all enemies of communism.

soviet version of communism depended on the poeple never knowing how good everyone else had it.  It depended on em not being able to get out.

lazs

Iran/North Korea/China....

[MiloMorai]

Popov demostrated radio in 1895 in Russian Academy of Science. His works were immediately classified by Military Ministry.

With all it's drawbacks, totalitarian Russian Empire had state-of-the-art science and research.

That would be Czarist Russian Empire?

This is what you said:

Totalitarian Russian Empire got all it's large warships equipped with wireless telegraph by the time Marconi got his patent.

Have to love your revisionist history Boroda.

Beginning in the early 1890s Popov continued the experiments of other radio pioneers, such as Heinrich Hertz. In 1894 he built his first radio receiver, a version of the coherer. Further refined as a lightning detector, it was presented to the Russian Physical and Chemical Society on May 7, 1895 — the day has been celebrated in the Russian Federation as "Radio Day". The paper on his findings was published the same year. In March 1896, he effected transmission of radio waves between different campus buildings in St Petersburg. Upon learning about Guglielmo Marconi's system, he effected ship-to-shore communication over a distance of 6 miles in 1898 and 30 miles in 1899.

[Boroda]

Have to love your revisionist history Boroda.

Sorry, I thought Marconi patented radio in 1902. Maybe I mixed the date with his first long-range (transatlantic) communication test.

In 1905 Russian auxillary cruiser Ural had a radio so powerfull that it could jam Japanese radio communications.

[angelsandair]

Laz, ....you're for communist Chinese government but against Soviet government.....to me they are same.....in fact, Chinese right now are A LOT worse due to enormous influence over USA, something Soviets never had, and there is no way in hell China will attempt government change like Russia did...

Yes, but if China gets out of control, we just dont buy their stuff.

Communism is no good to anybody. Everybody is miserable, you have no freedom and you have less things. I've seen pictures of Soviet grocery stores and it looked almost barren compared to the ones we had back then.

The soviets even had radios that would turn on when-ever the Soviets would want them to turn on in your house. The communist Soviets didn't care at all for their people (Chernobyl and the Aral Sea can prove it) I wonder who would support communism? 2 of the worst enviromental disasters happened BECAUSE of Soviet/Communist Rule.

[MiloMorai]

Sorry, I thought Marconi patented radio in 1902. Maybe I mixed the date with his first long-range (transatlantic) communication test.

In 1905 Russian auxillary cruiser Ural had a radio so powerfull that it could jam Japanese radio communications.

I think so.

The Ural didn't jam for long as it was sunk. Anyways got any proof.