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Offline croduh

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Interesting photo
« on: July 06, 2008, 06:43:34 AM »
Wind tunnel?Museum (doubt because of people in white suits)?Testing facility?


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Re: Interesting photo
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2008, 07:36:35 AM »
It's indeed a wind tunnel. It's a research facility, the "Luftfahrtforschungsanstalt Hermann Göring" in Völkenrode near Brunswick. That facility was built in 1935 and ended operations in 1945. After the war the compounds hosted an agricultural research facility, the "Bundesforschungsanstalt für Landwirtschaft Braunschweig-Völkenrode" and  the "Die Physikalisch-Technische Bundesanstalt",  the national institute for natural and engineering sciences, particulary meteorolgy.

The facility had three tunnels, A1 (completed 1937) had a diameter of 2.5 -3m, A2 (completed 1939 but only operational from 1942 on) was a high speed wind tunnel for testing parts and models of rockets, missiles & jets, and  the giant A3 (depicted above, completed 1940) with 8m diameter and speeds up to 350 km/h.
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Re: Interesting photo
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2008, 11:26:13 AM »
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Re: Interesting photo
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2008, 01:26:26 PM »
That looks like a 109 B or C?
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Re: Interesting photo
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2008, 01:34:57 PM »
That looks like a 109 B or C?
It is an early model B109E as the B/C had a much deeper oil cooler/radiator and no wing radiators. The B/Cs had 2 bladed props while the 109 in the pic has a 3 bladed prop.

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Re: Interesting photo
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2008, 02:55:42 PM »
Looks to be a Bf.109E-3. Wing barrels look a bit thick to be MG17's, which IIRC the E-1 and E-2 had. Also has the lumps in the wings for the receiver/ammunition drum, definitely looks like MG/FF's. And it's not an E-4 or E-7, the canopy is different.
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Re: Interesting photo
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2008, 03:34:25 PM »
It's indeed a wind tunnel. It's a research facility, the "Luftfahrtforschungsanstalt Hermann Göring" in Völkenrode near Brunswick. That facility was built in 1935 and ended operations in 1945. After the war the compounds hosted an agricultural research facility, the "Bundesforschungsanstalt für Landwirtschaft Braunschweig-Völkenrode" and  the "Die Physikalisch-Technische Bundesanstalt",  the national institute for natural and engineering sciences, particulary meteorolgy.

The facility had three tunnels, A1 (completed 1937) had a diameter of 2.5 -3m, A2 (completed 1939 but only operational from 1942 on) was a high speed wind tunnel for testing parts and models of rockets, missiles & jets, and  the giant A3 (depicted above, completed 1940) with 8m diameter and speeds up to 350 km/h.

Mostly correct; the US forces took LFA on April 1945 and many of key scientists were transfered to USA. However, the Brits took over the LFA summer 1945 and the remaining organisation continued under British controll as MAP Volkenrode; they translated German research material to english and some test facilities were disassembled and sent to GB.

Edit: Forgot to add that there were more than three tunnels, at least up to A9 but some of these were small.
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Re: Interesting photo
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2008, 08:53:03 PM »
Found another photo in 'Messerschmitt Bf109A-E', pg 125. It is an E-3 according to the caption. Part of the code on the fuselage is looks like IGKS

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« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2008, 09:00:46 PM »
Found another photo in 'Messerschmitt Bf109A-E', pg 125. It is an E-3 according to the caption. Part of the code on the fuselage is looks like IGKS
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Re: Interesting photo
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2008, 02:52:04 AM »
In indiana jones, those 109's that chase indy and his father, what versions of 109s are they?

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Re: Interesting photo
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2008, 03:06:51 AM »
In indiana jones, those 109's that chase indy and his father, what versions of 109s are they?

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Look again.  Those aren't 109s in that movie :)

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Re: Interesting photo
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2008, 08:02:53 AM »
In indiana jones, those 109's that chase indy and his father, what versions of 109s are they?

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Those weren't 109's - they were Messerschmitt Bf.108 TAIFUN's (Typhoon) - a 4 seater communication & liaison aircraft.





See the difference between the Bf.109 (top) & the Bf.108.


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« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2008, 08:14:00 AM »
Look again.  Those aren't 109s in that movie :)

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