Cheating - ** Need for VOX Change **"High Tech Please Read"**

[Vudak]

You would think he had learned his lesson by now.

I understand your frustration.  No matter how much you try to reason with some people, or show them the light, they just never will get it.  You could keep trying 'til your blue as a Corsair and it's not going to help.

You know people like that?

I know people like that.

[Banshee7]

ROX, my friend, this whole thread tells me one thing.  And that one thing is that you are looking into this and taking it waaay too seriously dude.  If it was a life/death situation or something going on in RL i could understand.  But remember this is just a game.  Have fun!  And what helps the most with having fun is worrying about yourself and how you enjoy the game.  Don't worry about other people because that just hinders your AH experience.

[ROX]

You sure it wasnt you that got laughed out of the thread it seems to be that way lately and i believe him, hell stang and I took 5 tank town bases in under 15 mins, can the allience do that 

No one in the Knight Alliance gives a rat's backside about TT...anyone who has any grasp on the strategy of the game knows the TT bases are worthless.  All it does is PO the squeekers of the other team.  The strategic gains are won on the edges of the map. All TT does is waste a country's resources. My DOG knows that.

All 22 people in the mission and we had Gunnit222 and another M3 OTW to the town wittnessed it.  Snaphook had a "mission" to take a base and didn't even have troops ready.  My mission wasn't even going to that base (although we did have to fly over it)...we were going for the next base (the port) and had forces in hand to kill the cv and get the cv back (which we did).

What kind of mission planner bothers to kill the town and not have troops at the ready?  I had one of my guys drop drunks for the take.  Problem solved.  A win for the team....

Snaphook then proceeds to launch into a 3 minute name calling tirade (which he initially lied about then confessed to later when we told him we had film)...then gets on the boards and makes non-stop attacks on me til Skuzzy let him know if he kept it up he'd be banned.  I offered to him and everyone on the thread that I would happly send them the film I had on the incident.  Not one person bothered to take me up on teh offer.

I truly think that is the biggest root of the biggest problem on this furum:

A) There are those who like to fly by themselves (for the most part) for score, rank, and personal glory
B) There are those who love teamwork, working in groups, and winning strategic objectives
C) (a minority) who just spend all their time at tank town

Each group sees the other groups as horrible evil doers that destroy the game.  Lighten up--it's their $15 bucks



Each meandering, slithering, and personal attiack off topic post just continues to evade the thread topic.

The original poster wanted to take away the 2 most importaint tools in a spy's toolbox:  cross country text and hourly sidehopping.  He's talking about changing the game in way that forces people to play more honestly.  Sure, they can use the phone, have 2 accounts, yadiyadiyadi--but at AT LEAST the game was making it harder to do rather than making it easier. Why would any honest playing player be against that?

"But ROX says that a lot of people spy!!!!!"  Buffalo chunks!  It's an extremely small group of people who do it, and even smaller that do it on a regular basis.

Ev...I love your pictures, I love your country, I enjoy most of your posts...I can even understand attempting to stand up for a squaddie, but when he's wrong it makes you look bad, and I hate to see that.

Somone please take the weed head aside sometime and spend 5 minutes to teach the poor guy how to read a roster and take a screenshot.  You'll have to do it 15 or 20 times because he forgets.





ROX

[Dichotomy]

<yawn> nvm

any beer left in that cooler?

[Banshee7]

i left that hours ago....It's time for some Captain!

[Banshee7]

ROX did you atleast look at my post 

[Dichotomy]

i left that hours ago....It's time for some Captain!

Hmmm I'll head to the store....

Rox, bro, forget about it and lets get cooking It's a much better use of your time and skills than trying to convince someone of something they'll never accept.

[Vudak]

Sure, they can use the phone, have 2 accounts, yadiyadiyadi--but at AT LEAST the game was making it harder to do rather than making it easier. Why would any honest playing player be against that?

I've given you good reasons! Many have! You've spent the past few days ignoring them and debating other people's character instead! If you want to get this thread back on track - let's make it happen! Here, I'll start:

I'm an honest player, I don't cheat, I don't spy...  Heck, I haven't even switched countries for a few weeks. I have legitimate reasons why I'd be against increasing the time before you can switch sides.  In brief, they are:

1.  Longer periods limit people's ability to have fun in their own way (want to fly in a horde?  Cool, go to the side that has one.  Want to fly against it?  Cool, you're more than welcome to switch.  Want to check out a different part of the map for an hour, then head over to another?  By all means);

2.  Longer periods limit people's ability to improve at this game (trainers regularly take out their students for MA hops.  People often have to switch sides for this.  If they have squad night or something in a few hours, that's not very fair to them, and it's going to hurt the game in the long run, as some people might not take up a trainer's offer for this very reason);

3.  Longer periods limit the community's ability to help balance the arena.  Sure, one guy doesn't make a difference.  10 or 20 guys (squad size) do.

4.  Most importantly, it's not going to fix your problem.  You have conceded this yourself.  It accomplishes nothing that you want.  

So why do it?

[Rich46yo]

The only problem I see Rox had is I myself would have just left the thread when it starting getting personal and inflammatory.

Other then that I see no problem with him wishing for a game full of integrity and fairness. Wheres the harm in that? I wish it too.

A lot of these guys who are condescending with this, "its just a game shaddap" attitude would be screaming the loudest if they themselves organized a big GV mission and kept finding 10 enemy tigers sitting on their spawn. What can I tellya? Humans are hypocritical animals. They tend to view life thru their own personal experiences and often dont put themselves in the other guys shoes. I dont think theres much of a problem with Rooks playing like that. We are older and pretty much dont care.

But lets face it, the vast majority of players play with integrity. I believe most side switchers do too.

Let me add this. I wasnt representing anyone but myself when I called this Tralfazz guy a cheat. Tho I fly with different squads I dont belong to any and I was speaking for myself. I wish I had him in front of me right now so I could call him a cheat, "funny how his Typhie stopped magically appearing as our NOE missions roll off the runways since I called him out here". I dont ask others to fight my battles.

One thing I do try to do is play the game with respect for the other guy. I dont hog kills, try and help others when they need it, apologize if I ram "or if Im wrong about something", dont start nonsense on 200, and play with integrity. Im not perfect but I try.

And so do many of you. And so does Rox. Nobody is evil for wanting the game to have some integrity. Thats all this thread is about. Nothing more.

[Guppy35]

The only problem I see Rox had is I myself would have just left the thread when it starting getting personal and inflammatory.

Other then that I see no problem with him wishing for a game full of integrity and fairness. Wheres the harm in that? I wish it too.

Quoting ROX's first undeleted post that I could find.

"The clowns doing it for evil intent will scream their heads off on the boards to high heaven.

If they weren't using it for evil intent, why would they even remotely care if it were changed?

Follow the "I ALWAYS switch countries to the lowest numbers for the best fights" BOZOS in-game.  Make a note for a few weeks of what the countries they are on and the numbers at the time (take some roster screen shots) and find out that it's the biggest lie in the game.  Over 75% of the time you will see them one of the biggest numbers countries.

The extremely few times they do switch to the lowest numbers....nobody trusts them worth a flip because they have seen them as an enemy most of the time.

PLEASE don't believe me, make note yourself and check the roster often. 

You might want to also take note of how many times they are on one country--and how many times one or more of their squaddies are on another.

You don't have to be Einstein to figure out what they are doing."

And his next

"I stand by my post...there are folks who constantly post about how they "ALWAYS go to the side with the lowest numbers...." yadi yadi yadi.  Just look at the roster sometime and see where really are.  Like I said, DON'T believe me, go look for yourself.

As For the side hoppers with evil intent.... It is only a very small handfull of people who I see doing it."

And again

"Ok...I'll be more specific.

LYING Bozos."

It goes on and on.  Then he posts the screenshot showing myself and Stogy on Titanic Tuesday flying for the second lowest country and it's his proof!

Seems to me he's fairly convinced it me and the 80th Headhunters. 

For whatever reason he has the hots for us and seems to believe we don't play the way we say.  That it's all a cover for our nefarious plans to ruin the game. 

And somehow it's folks reacting to that, that have made it personal and inflammatory?

If I took it even a bit seriously I'd be offended, but it's far too humorous 

[humble]

Snaps got caught lying about the whole "He stole my base take         " and got laughed off the thread. 

His "cred" as you call it was TOAST last winter when he made such a total lying fool of himself that the entire thread got Skuzzinated and Skuzzy let him know in no uncertain terms if his attack posting continued he'd be banned.

You would think he had learned his lesson by now.

"any 6 guys from his squad can do more in an hour then the alliance can do in a weekend"...they guy is a joke, has no "cred", and can't tell the truth with a 44 magnum pointed at his head.

Snaphook  = FAIL




BTW:  Who was it that called out who?


Reading:  It's fundimental

ROX

Actually the person who is always lying is you....

Plenty of people were there and saw everything 1st hand, you didnt show any "proof" at all, simply a film edited to only show my tirade after the fact.

Your a classless clueless dolt with literally zero skill or command ability. We didnt complain at all that you took the base, but that you literally ignored 6-7 other knights telling you the town was flat and the field was capped and all you needed to do was bring in the troops. We openly tried to communicate with you pompous twits and were repeatedly told to "clear the channel" while you morons dumped the VH and totalled the field.

I've been here since beta and flying since 94 and I think your the only person I actively dislike in this game. I root against every alliance mission and anyone who flies in them....end of story. If my squad would leave knights I'd gleefully hunt you down and run you out of any arena your in every time I'm up. That plain and simple enough for you....

[BillyD]

You sure it wasnt you that got laughed out of the thread it seems to be that way lately and i believe him, hell stang and I took 5 tank town bases in under 15 mins, can the allience do that 

CHEATERS! lol   

j/k

 

[mensa180]

oh the e-drama.

[Murdr]

The original poster wanted to take away the 2 most importaint tools in a spy's toolbox:  cross country text and hourly sidehopping.  He's talking about changing the game in way that forces people to play more honestly.  Sure, they can use the phone, have 2 accounts, yadiyadiyadi--but at AT LEAST the game was making it harder to do rather than making it easier. Why would any honest playing player be against that?

I use cross country PMs, both text and vox quite frequently.  I could care less what tards who individually couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag are doing to knock over toolsheds.  I do however enjoy chatting with the friends I've made over the last 12 years who reside in this community, and any of them could be on any country at a given time.  If the topic of discussion is even about AH, it's often privately ridiculing individuals who tend to make fools of themselves in various ways in AH and on the boards  

One thing that people fail to see is that game features were designed with an intention.  Squads were designed with a limit of 32 people.  Is that a technical limitation, or is that because HT did not intend AH to be a game dominated by "airforces" of 100+ players?  For the sake of argument, if HT does want to see team play, but does not want it taken to excess, why would he want to change anything?  If players want to form hordes and feel satisfied playing the strategic aspect of the game, and other players are compelled to grief those efforts when they become excessive, then there is a self policing system that does not need meddled with.**

Regarding switching sides, anyone who pays the least bit of attention to changes made to the game over the last few years, can see that country balance is an important issue to HTC.  Forcing players to stay in a country for extended time periods is counterproductive to balancing.

**Just a clearification.  If the tools provided in the game (squad of up to 32 players with it's own private channel, and the ability to pick and choose who can be a member) were used instead of overlooked, then many of these "problems" wouldn't be.

[Oldman731]

Actually the person who is always lying is you....

Plenty of people were there and saw everything 1st hand, you didnt show any "proof" at all, simply a film edited to only show my tirade after the fact.

Your a classless clueless dolt with literally zero skill or command ability. We didnt complain at all that you took the base, but that you literally ignored 6-7 other knights telling you the town was flat and the field was capped and all you needed to do was bring in the troops. We openly tried to communicate with you pompous twits and were repeatedly told to "clear the channel" while you morons dumped the VH and totalled the field.

I've been here since beta and flying since 94 and I think your the only person I actively dislike in this game. I root against every alliance mission and anyone who flies in them....end of story. If my squad would leave knights I'd gleefully hunt you down and run you out of any arena your in every time I'm up. That plain and simple enough for you....

This is pretty good, Humble, I'm impressed.

Remind me, if I come to the LW MAs, to look these people up.

- oldman