P-47M revisited..

[Wingnutt]

130 P-47Ms were delivered to the 56th Fighter Group, and were responsible for all four of that group's jet shoot-downs.

P-47D-27-RE airframes (serials 42-27385/27388) were taken off the production line at Farmingdale and fitted with the Pratt & Whitney R-2800-57© engine equipped with a larger CH-5 turbosupercharger. This new engine offered a war emergency power of 2800 hp at 32,500 feet with water injection. Air brakes were fitted underneath the wings to aid in deceleration during dives.



The new engine installation was ordered into production in September 1944 for the last 130 P-47D-30-RE aircraft delivered by Farmingdale, the aircraft being subsequently redesignated P-47M-1-RE. The serial numbers of the 130 P-47M-1-RE Thunderbolts built were 44-21108/21237

The first P-47M was delivered in December 1944, and they were rushed to the 56th Fighter Group in Europe. However, engine problems delayed their use until the last few weeks of the war in Europe. Underwing racks were not fitted, as the P-47M was meant to be operated strictly as a fighter. interesting

Performance of the P-47M-1-RE included a maximum speed of 400 mph at 10,000 feet, 453 mph at at 25,000 feet, and 470 mph at 30,000 feet. Initial climb rate was 3500 feet per minute at 5000 feet and 2650 feet per minute at 20,000 feet. Range (clean) was 560 miles at 10,000 feet. Armament was six or eight 0.50-inch machine guns with 267 or 425 rpg. Weights were 10,432 pounds empty, 13,275 pounds normal loaded, and 15,500 pounds maximum. Dimension were wingspan 40 feet 9 3/8 inches, length 36 feet 4 inches, height 14 feet 7 inches, and wing area 308 square feet.

Sources:

1. American Combat Planes, Ray Wagner, Third Enlarged Edition, Doubleday, 1982.

2. The American Fighter, Enzo Angelucci and Peter Bowers, Orion Books, 1987.

3. War Planes of the Second World War, Fighters, Volume Four, William Green, Doubleday 1964.

4. United States Military Aircraft since 1909, Gordon Swanborough and Peter M. Bowers, Smithsonian, 1989.

5. The Republic P-47D Thunderbolt, Aircraft in Profile, Edward Shacklady, Doubleday, 1969.

6. Famous Fighters of the Second World War, Volume I, William Green, 1967.

7. Thunderbolt: A Documentary History of the Republic P-47, Roger Freeman, Motorbooks, 1992.


still think it would make a nice addition, being the APEX of the most produced aircraft in the war.

would probably need a perk value, something between that off the Tempest and Hog-4

[Motherland]

still think it would make a nice addition, being the APEX of the most produced aircraft in the war.

I thought this thread was about the P47M? Now it's about the Yak3...

[Wingnutt]

I thought this thread was about the P47M? Now it's about the Yak3...

sorry, most pruduced AMERICAN aircraft 

wouldent mind seeing the Yak3 either now that ya mention it.

[Anaxogoras]

400mph at 10k ft?  That's nothing.  The 109K-4 does 400mph at 5k ft.

I say go for it.  It would be interesting to see a pure fighter version of the P-47.

[DaveJ]

Yes please! 

[Motherland]

There are tons of more important a/c to be modeled and remodeled before HTC looks at the P47 again.

[Wingnutt]

There are tons of more important a/c to be modeled and remodeled before HTC looks at the P47 again.

thing is mother, it would take less than nothing to add the 47M.. its more ir less identical as far as modeling goes to the D40..

all they would have to do is tweak the performance #s, add a skin, and really thats about it.

[Motherland]

thing is mother, it would take less than nothing to add the 47M.. its more ir less identical as far as modeling goes to the D40..

all they would have to do is tweak the performance #s, add a skin, and really thats about it.

There was a multiple year lapse between the update of the 190's and the update of the Ta152... there is very little visual difference between the Ta152 and the Fw190D9. Obviously there is more behind this than seems obvious from the outside.

[Wingnutt]

There was a multiple year lapse between the update of the 190's and the update of the Ta152... there is very little visual difference between the Ta152 and the Fw190D9. Obviously there is more behind this than seems obvious from the outside.

the 152 got completely redone model wise.

[Motherland]

the 152 got completely redone model wise.

The Ta152 model was most likely just modified from the Dora model. They're very similar. The biggest difference is the wings.
Kind of like going from a D to an M.

[Wingnutt]

The Ta152 model was most likely just modified from the Dora model. They're very similar. The biggest difference is the wings.
Kind of like going from a D to an M.

I dont think the M is distinguishable from the D40 in outward appearence..  if it is the difference is pretty slight.

[angelsandair]

The Ta152 model was most likely just modified from the Dora model. They're very similar. The biggest difference is the wings.
Kind of like going from a D to an M.

They had to add different guns, different fuel... etc. Probably had to model the wings differently if they modified the flight from the older model. 

[Rebel]

Yes, please

1 Case of Brew of choice, and 1 bottle of Scotch (requestor's choice) is hereby officially offered.

 

[Motherland]

They had to add different guns, different fuel... etc. Probably had to model the wings differently if they modified the flight from the older model. 

That was all already there.
The graphics model and the flight model are completely separate. You can make a completely new graphics model (model an aircraft in 3D) and put it over an already present flight model and fly it offline.

[BnZ]

I'd say yes, give us the P-47M. The Army Air Corps needs a perked plane.

It should be perked somewhere between the F4U-4 and the Spit14. The F4U-4 and the Tempest would both still be more dominant at typical MA alts.

It would give me something to spend my perks on. I don't really care for British, Navy, or jets. It wouldn't be hard to add at all, not like developing a whole new plane.