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Re: Flying Tigers, RAF, and IJAAF --Rangoon scenario has more openings!
« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2008, 01:56:22 PM »
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Re: Flying Tigers, RAF, and IJAAF --Rangoon scenario has more openings!
« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2008, 02:07:56 PM »
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Re: Flying Tigers, RAF, and IJAAF --Rangoon scenario has more openings!
« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2008, 02:14:57 PM »
Didn't they already run this scenario once before a couple of years back?

Can't come up with anything new? on the real real real real tip , not meant to offend here, but a serious question.

Much like BOB'06, the scenario they are TRYING to get up and running as a NEW one is having terrain and other problems, so in the meantime they are brushing off an old tried and true favorite that has widespread appeal. That's it in a nutshell.

Alky, if you're asking for AVG skins with shark's teeth, we have 3 in-game currently, including the default P-40B skin.





All 3 have teeth on them, and all are AVG skins.

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Re: Flying Tigers, RAF, and IJAAF --Rangoon scenario has more openings!
« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2008, 02:36:00 PM »
darnit Krusty..i was posting those same three skins but i had the Warning someone has posted while you were reading thingy
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Re: Flying Tigers, RAF, and IJAAF --Rangoon scenario has more openings!
« Reply #19 on: July 17, 2008, 02:41:34 PM »
Alky, if you're asking for AVG skins with shark's teeth, we have 3 in-game currently, including the default P-40B skin.
All 3 have teeth on them, and all are AVG skins.
Last time I checked all the skins (couple of days ago) there was only one P-40 skin with the blue stars on the wings and no teeth (?).
I've had the game "automatically" download the skins for months now  :confused:
I'll look again a little later today, thanx!  :)

EDIT:
My apologies... the default P-40 is AVG with sharks teeth as well as a couple of E models. My old eyes missed it in the hanger... sorry!
:rolleyes:

I can't participate anyway because I work Saturdays, I wish I could though, Flying Tigers with John Wayne is one of my favorite movies :)

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Re: Flying Tigers, RAF, and IJAAF --Rangoon scenario has more openings!
« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2008, 02:59:02 PM »
Didn't they already run this scenario once before a couple of years back?

Can't come up with anything new? on the real real real real tip , not meant to offend here, but a serious question.

I'm guessing that you haven't played in scenarios yet and aren't yet familiar with them (or you'd know the answer).  Just like with your question, this is not meant as an offense, but just an observation.  So for you, it will be new regardless.  It would be excellent if you come play in this one -- I think you'll like it.

To explain, scenarios historically have almost all been new.  Below is a list of which were new and which were rerun.  Now that we have a good list of proven, fun scenarios, we will probably run a higher proportion of proven designs, rather than a new one every time.  This is for two reasons.  First, players ask for various scenarios (such as Rangoon) to be rerun because they liked them.  Second, we want to run at least 3 scenarios a year, and for doing that with our small group of player volunteers (we're just regular players like you guys), we can't do 3 new ones every year.

A new design takes concept (which is the part that is easy, quick, and in great abundance -- so, no, we don't have a problem coming up with new ideas) and then a bunch of just plain work:  fully fleshing out the rules and scoring, writing the rules into a document that is clear without loopholes and inconsistencies, making the terrain (if we don't already have it), determining play balance and scoring, then multiple test/debug cycles.  This work part takes collectively more than a man-year to do (typically 4-6 people for 3-5 months of their available volunteer time).

Here is list of past scenarios, with notation on which was new and which was rerun:

Rangoon, '42 (August, 2008) -- rerun, last run in 2004
Der Grosse Schlag (October, 2007) -- new
Operation Husky (June, 2007) -- new
Battle of Britain 2006 (September, 2006) -- rerun, last run in 2004
Operation Downfall (July, 2006) -- new
Stalin's Fourth (April, 2006) -- new
Fire Over Malta (November, 2005) -- new
Coral Sea (April, 2005) -- new
Rangoon, '42 (October, 2004) -- new


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Re: Flying Tigers, RAF, and IJAAF --Rangoon scenario has more openings!
« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2008, 04:35:53 PM »
Ohhhhhhh they even have the Flying Tiger's "H :rockells Angels" skin..  :devil

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Re: Flying Tigers, RAF, and IJAAF --Rangoon scenario has more openings!
« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2008, 04:54:03 PM »
I'm guessing that you haven't played in scenarios yet and aren't yet familiar with them (or you'd know the answer).  Just like with your question, this is not meant as an offense, but just an observation.  So for you, it will be new regardless.  It would be excellent if you come play in this one -- I think you'll like it.

To explain, scenarios historically have almost all been new.  Below is a list of which were new and which were rerun.  Now that we have a good list of proven, fun scenarios, we will probably run a higher proportion of proven designs, rather than a new one every time.  This is for two reasons.  First, players ask for various scenarios (such as Rangoon) to be rerun because they liked them.  Second, we want to run at least 3 scenarios a year, and for doing that with our small group of player volunteers (we're just regular players like you guys), we can't do 3 new ones every year.

A new design takes concept (which is the part that is easy, quick, and in great abundance -- so, no, we don't have a problem coming up with new ideas) and then a bunch of just plain work:  fully fleshing out the rules and scoring, writing the rules into a document that is clear without loopholes and inconsistencies, making the terrain (if we don't already have it), determining play balance and scoring, then multiple test/debug cycles.  This work part takes collectively more than a man-year to do (typically 4-6 people for 3-5 months of their available volunteer time).

Here is list of past scenarios, with notation on which was new and which was rerun:

Rangoon, '42 (August, 2008) -- rerun, last run in 2004
Der Grosse Schlag (October, 2007) -- new
Operation Husky (June, 2007) -- new
Battle of Britain 2006 (September, 2006) -- rerun, last run in 2004
Operation Downfall (July, 2006) -- new
Stalin's Fourth (April, 2006) -- new
Fire Over Malta (November, 2005) -- new
Coral Sea (April, 2005) -- new
Rangoon, '42 (October, 2004) -- new



I was in the original Rangoon, which is why i asked why it was being ran again?

So you guys can't come up with a new one is the question and it wasn't meant to provoke as some of the agitators want it to seem that it does.

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Re: Flying Tigers, RAF, and IJAAF --Rangoon scenario has more openings!
« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2008, 12:37:00 AM »
I was in the original Rangoon,

OK.  Now you have the opportunity to fly on the opposite side to see what it was like.  :aok

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it wasn't meant to provoke as some of the agitators want it to seem that it does

I don't think anyone said anything disparaging about your post or is agitating.  I just looked back at them.  The only people who said anything (other than posting some innocuous icons) were me and Krusty, who answered your question politely.
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Re: Flying Tigers, RAF, and IJAAF --Rangoon scenario has more openings!
« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2008, 11:06:45 AM »
OK.  Now you have the opportunity to fly on the opposite side to see what it was like.  :aok

I don't think anyone said anything disparaging about your post or is agitating.  I just looked back at them.  The only people who said anything (other than posting some innocuous icons) were me and Krusty, who answered your question politely.

so the staff Kaint come up with a new scenario question was never answered.

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Re: Flying Tigers, RAF, and IJAAF --Rangoon scenario has more openings!
« Reply #25 on: July 18, 2008, 03:15:53 PM »
so the staff Kaint come up with a new scenario question was never answered.

Yes, it was answered in great detail.  You even quoted the whole message that explains it.