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Offline Choocha

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Motorcycle Enthusiasts-Horrible Accident
« on: July 13, 2008, 08:45:01 PM »
  I need to write about what I saw Saturday.  I won't give specifics- names, exact location etc. because there is an active criminal case going on and I'm the star witness.  But here goes...

  I'm at an intersection munching on my Taco Bell.  There are four Bikers in front of me.  One girl, three guys - all under 30.  Light turns green, they wind up their bikes and start to cross into the intersection.  They are talking to each other (fatal mistake).  In my peripheral vision I catch a speeding car clearly trying to beat the red light.  I stop, they continue.  At 3 sec into the green light the car streaks into the intersection at a very high speed.  3 SECONDS!!!  Everything slowed down.  What turned out to be 5 seconds total seems like 15 minutes.  BAM!!!!!!  The driver takes out 4 bikes in a second.  It looked like a mortar round landing a direct hit.  Bodies fly into the air in all different directions.  One guy lands three feet from my car.  Then quiet.  Nothing.  I open the door in a state of shock.  Four bodies in the road, gasoline smell, human skin on the pavement, blood and a miscellaneous foot too.  Dead quiet (cause I'm shock).  Then, blood curdling screams for help..many.  No actor could replicate the horror and desperation in their voices.  I walk into the center of the accident, I'm in a pool of blood and gasoline.  More screams..."God Help me!!!" from one..."I don't want to die," from another.

  Then my salvation comes.  An off duty doctor, still in his greens makes it to me and yells for me to help him.  I snap out of it and jump to attention.  We go from victim to victim accessing each.  The first one we make it to has no pulse.  Flat line.  I help the doctor with chest compressions.  ER nurse drives by and springs into action.  She works on the girl who is screaming the loudest.  She tells the doctor that she is alive but probably severed her spinal cord.  The nurse moves on.  A strange mix of an off duty cop and a couple of outlaw bikers take over the scene and dispatch gawkers.  Four ambulances + fire rescue trucks arrive.  10 minutes into chest compressions and nothing.  He's hooked up to a ventilator and compressions continue.  Two men have "minor injuries," shattered femurs etc.  The girl is bad off.  They spend a lot of time and attention on her... mulling over options to move here.  She has  lost a lot of skin and her leg looks like a hamhock.  They fear internal injuries and move her..she's off.  20 minutes into the accident, the first guy still has no pulse.  Chest compressions continue and he is rushed
off with no pulse...not good.  Fire department the whole time is laying down sawdust onto the mix of blood and gasoline.  They are scared of a combustion event which would have swallowed us up.  They warn us and we continue at our own peril.  The poor souls are gone now and the mode swings decidedly into a different direction: what the fu ck happened and who is responsible?   If there is intrest I will write part two answering these questions. 

Why would any sane person ride a motorcycle?
 


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Re: Motorcycle Enthusiasts-Horrible Accident
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2008, 08:47:54 PM »
Don't blame the bike for the fault of stupid riders and drivers.

Sorry you had to see this.
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Re: Motorcycle Enthusiasts-Horrible Accident
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2008, 08:56:12 PM »
You'd ride a bike for the same reason you wouldn't stay in mama's womb where it's safe.  It's everyone's choice what to do with their own life, after all.
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« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2008, 08:58:40 PM »
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« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2008, 09:02:24 PM »
Well that's something else.. I do agree it's way too easy to get a license in the US. I don't want to derail or open a can of worms, but it's the same as with general education.  It's not thorough and strict enough.
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« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2008, 09:02:43 PM »
Yes, but I'm convinced the general driving public is not mature enough in this country to drive a long side of bikes

Yes, please, save us from ourselves...

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« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2008, 09:04:07 PM »
I'll leave this thread to the nanny state socialists.

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« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2008, 09:06:49 PM »
If you saw these kids lying on the pavement begging for their lives maybe u would have a different opinion.  They will be with me for the rest of my life.
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« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2008, 09:10:54 PM »
I'll leave this thread to the nanny state socialists.
You think it's a stretch into socialism to think that bikes, guns, and other dangerous machinery ought to have licensing adapted to favor safe use?  Driving safely and efficiently is certainly not a skill that most people are born with.
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« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2008, 09:20:41 PM »
You think it's a stretch into socialism to think that bikes, guns, and other dangerous machinery ought to have licensing adapted to favor safe use?  Driving safely and efficiently is certainly not a skill that most people are born with.

Here's the way it works.

If I'm operating a contraption that has the ability to hurt you and yours, restrict away.

If I'm operating a contraption that impairs my ability to protect myself from you hurting me and mine, mind your own business.

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« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2008, 09:25:23 PM »
I must not be sane. How else can I answer that question? That kind of scene happens to people in cross walks and on pedal bikes. Are these people sane? Too many are too comfortable in there vehicles driving along with no respect for anyone else. Many times an accident can be avoided if the people involved were more aware of what they are doing instead of how fast they can get to where they are going. It's a shame that these things happen and it's horrifying to see first hand, but I don't think sanity has much to do with it.
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« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2008, 09:25:44 PM »
There were many victims that day.  Not just the bikers.  The doctor, nurse and myself stood in a pool of gasoline to help them.  It was a dangerous scene.  People were crying and shaking at the sight of these beautiful kids struggling to live.  Lives will be changed forever.

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« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2008, 09:28:11 PM »
You think it's a stretch into socialism to think that bikes, guns, and other dangerous machinery ought to have licensing adapted to favor safe use?  Driving safely and efficiently is certainly not a skill that most people are born with.

All the licensing in the world won't save you from stupidity.  All the regulations and laws in the world won't stop someone from doing something he really wants to do.

Most murders are committed by illegally owned weapons.  Most accidents are caused by illegally performed motor vehicle maneuvers.


You could license the person who drove the car from here to kingdom come.  You could put them through a year of segregated "Driving Death Camp" to instill in them safe driving.  Yet someone, somewhere will feel it prudent to run a red light.

You could outlaw the use of Motorcycles.  However had the motorcycles not been there, a car would have.  Instead of several bikes being taken out by someone breaking the law, a regular automobile would have been hit.  And from here it is only conjecture whether or not there would have been people in the passenger side of the car.  Odds tell us that there wouldn't have been.  But then again Odds also tell us that 4 people on bikes won't get taken out by someone running a red light.


It is a stretch into socialism.  A tiny one at that.  Socialists think that they can create new restrictive laws and make the world a safe place.  Yet every law restricting free choice by free citizens does nothing to make this place safer.  So not only are things not better off, but they are actually worse when Socialists are given free reign.

That is why Socialists need to be stopped, checked into the boards, and kicked in the face at every given opportunity.  
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Re: Motorcycle Enthusiasts-Horrible Accident
« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2008, 09:30:03 PM »
I am glad you jumped in to help.

Nail that car driver to the wall in court. He deserves to serve time.

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« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2008, 09:30:23 PM »
Consider this.
Had they been in a car instead of on bikes and hit broadside that way
Its entirely possabe and indeed probable you would have had the same outcome. And possibly worse because they would have been trapped in the car.

Rough deal either way
I dont envy you.

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