Unbelievable....

[Donzo]

What a silly thread!

Black vs White, allegations on BOTH sides that only lead to stupidity.

Perpatrators vs Victims...color or sexual orientation be damned!

My favorite analogy of race and sexual orientation is this:

You are in the Military...you are the Point in a Patrol...a Sniper gut shoots you...you lie writhing on the ground...

Question?  Do you give a damn about the Color, or Sexual Orientation of the person who risks his or her life to aid you?

Perpetrator=Sniper   Victim=You

What a silly response!

Perpetrator=Sniper?   Victim=You?

What does this have to do with who comes to my aid.  

In your anology sniper=gang of thungs in this case and victim=protective dad in this case.
What does

Question?  Do you give a damn about the Color, or Sexual Orientation of the person who risks his or her life to aid you?

have to do with that?

[Hangtime]

""it was sensationalized by white supremist groups.""

in it's own way, this is saying""it's not that bad"" a roundabout defense.

""you sensationalize it by claiming things that did not happen, like the girl was held for "days", she wasn't,""

this is like telling the guy that just lost his leg..it's only a flesh wound..another roundabout defense.

""I must add here that it is funny how the repuliclowns alway scream loudest when someone "plays the race card", while so many of you do just that in threads like this""

not really a defense, but trying to shift into the "race card" BS. the thread started off as ""a bunch of kids beat up a father as he was trying to defend his daughter from one of them"" it just so happened they were black. 

 i still want to know what you think would've happened had the father been black, and the kids been white....

""
Which brings us full circle.

...and none of it is 'apologetic'. Mav's just re-directing the focus onto the actual events.. without the embellishments... and has made the point, repeatedly, that the crimes in themselves need no embellishment to qualify as horrific, or that they don't reflect on the peer groups associated with the crimes.

Hang

[Ack-Ack]

Question?  Do you give a damn about the Color, or Sexual Orientation of the person who risks his or her life to aid you?

Perpetrator=Sniper   Victim=You

If BnZ was the victim, he'd piss his pants out of fear that the black medic coming to his aid was going to mug him.


ack-ack

[bongaroo]

Bong: Of all the children you know who "hated" Blacks, how many killed a Black person? Raped a Black person?  Beat a Black person within an inch of their lives? How many of even the most "racist" Whites do you know who have ever done ANY tangible harm to any Black or other minority? You see, that is the most mind boggling thing. For race-baiting apologists and self-hating Whites, a White merely disliking Blacks is apparently as bad or worse than racially-motivated rape or murder. The very worst of them will see it as a just motive for violent crimes against Whites. 

Actually, I do know of one case.  It was sad because the girl was a real sweetheart and had her prom night ruined because of some racist pig a-holes.

I think you mistake me for someone else.  I am very proud of my ancestry and heritage.  I spend a lot of time talking with my older relatives and writing down our history.  I'm also no self-hating or apologist as you put it.  I'd like to think that some day the color of your skin won't matter one bit.

You seem to be under the impression that only whites are beat up on by blacks now.  Well I know for a fact that is untrue.  Racism has been a problem since the beginning of written history.  Simply falling into the cycle yourself will never help break it.  Try and go above and beyond, I'm sure Jesus would be proud.

[Hangtime]

  Try and go above and beyond, I'm sure Jesus would be proud.

oh, puuuulllleeeezzze.

I just love it when somebody figures the religion card trumps the race card.

[Slamfire]

oh, puuuulllleeeezzze.

I just love it when somebody figures the religion card trumps the race card.

 

(I apologize if this is offensive but I couldn't resist)

[Hangtime]

LOL!!

I love it. Thanks for the 'wallpaper'.

 

[Slamfire]

LOL!!

I love it. Thanks for the 'wallpaper'.

 

 

The actual passage (King James Version) is:

Luke 22:36
"...and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one"

I've used that passage to great effect on religious people who were anti-gun. 
IE:
- "Jesus said to turn the other cheek!  He would have not approved gun ownership!"
- "Well how come he and his followers carried SWORDS then ?!?!"
- "WHAT ??!?!?!"
- "Luke 22:36 Look it up"

[BnZ]

Okay, that is bad.

Pertinent question 1.

Was she killed? Raped? Suffer permanent injury?

Pertinent question 2.

What year did all of this take place?

Pertinent question 3.

How many similar incidents did you witness?

Realize that if this girl was not murdered, raped, or beaten within an inch of her life, you have proven my point about how liberals equate Whites being rude or even merely disliking Blacks to Blacks committing actual violent crimes against Whites. Even with every, single, solitary incident of White-on-Black violence being played up by the media as much as possible, it simply isn't enough to cover the gap. So some jerk calling a perfectly nice Black guy a n*gg*r is made to equivalent to actual crimes against person or property.

The cognitive dissonance between the image of the Whites oppressing the Blacks, the constant portrayal of "dangerous White racists" on t.v., and what actually goes on, who actually does the violence, is appalling, and is no accident. And do you really believe ignoring the problem is helping?

BTW, don't believe in Jesus myself, but...His "turn the other cheek" does not mean what many people seem to think it means. Which is a good thing, because extreme application of that philosophy would be suicidal. His "If you do not have a sword, sell your garment and buy one." is more applicable here.

Actually, I do know of one case.  It was sad because the girl was a real sweetheart and had her prom night ruined because of some racist pig a-holes.

I think you mistake me for someone else.  I am very proud of my ancestry and heritage.  I spend a lot of time talking with my older relatives and writing down our history.  I'm also no self-hating or apologist as you put it.  I'd like to think that some day the color of your skin won't matter one bit.

You seem to be under the impression that only whites are beat up on by blacks now.  Well I know for a fact that is untrue.  Racism has been a problem since the beginning of written history.  Simply falling into the cycle yourself will never help break it.  Try and go above and beyond, I'm sure Jesus would be proud.

[BnZ]

Ack-Ack, this sad attempt at an insult does nothing but make it very clear who is capable of carrying on a civilized discussion and who is not.

If BnZ was the victim, he'd piss his pants out of fear that the black medic coming to his aid was going to mug him.


ack-ack

[midnight Target]

""it was sensationalized by white supremist groups.""

in it's own way, this is saying""it's not that bad"" a roundabout defense.

""you sensationalize it by claiming things that did not happen, like the girl was held for "days", she wasn't,""

this is like telling the guy that just lost his leg..it's only a flesh wound..another roundabout defense.

""I must add here that it is funny how the repuliclowns alway scream loudest when someone "plays the race card", while so many of you do just that in threads like this""

not really a defense, but trying to shift into the "race card" BS. the thread started off as ""a bunch of kids beat up a father as he was trying to defend his daughter from one of them"" it just so happened they were black. 

 i still want to know what you think would've happened had the father been black, and the kids been white....

""
Which brings us full circle.

The indignance over these crimes was partially based on lies and rumors. Just like in the Duke case. Yet so many in this thread were ready to point a finger and say Blacks are bad! Seeee!!!!!. ""

there was originally no finger pointing, and at least as for me and a couple others, you might look back and see mention of the fact that color, race, etc are irrelevent...and i did see one of your posts say the same i think....

gernerally, as i said before, when race comes into anything, if it's between black and white men, it's always a black man that brings it in first.

 regardless of what race these kids are, they should be suffering right now...and they;re not. they fkd that girl up for life. and her dad too.
 i'd be willing to bet that their violence towards him could even be considered terrorism

This post does nothing more than call you reading comprehension into question.

[midnight Target]

...and none of it is 'apologetic'. Mav's just re-directing the focus onto the actual events.. without the embellishments... and has made the point, repeatedly, that the crimes in themselves need no embellishment to qualify as horrific, or that they don't reflect on the peer groups associated with the crimes.

Hang

Same point I was making all along. Yet they were embellished. That is a fact.

[Bronk]

LMFAO MT never disappoints.

Wonder if he has a red bow tie?

[Hangtime]

Yup.

Always a ball crucifying the message bearer. I believe it was policy some years back... had the value-added benefit of keeping the number of folks in diplomatic service down too.

[bongaroo]

Okay, that is bad.

Pertinent question 1.

Was she killed? Raped? Suffer permanent injury?

Pertinent question 2.

What year did all of this take place?

Pertinent question 3.

How many similar incidents did you witness?

Realize that if this girl was not murdered, raped, or beaten within an inch of her life, you have proven my point about how liberals equate Whites being rude or even merely disliking Blacks to Blacks committing actual violent crimes against Whites. Even with every, single, solitary incident of White-on-Black violence being played up by the media as much as possible, it simply isn't enough to cover the gap. So some jerk calling a perfectly nice Black guy a n*gg*r is made to equivalent to actual crimes against person or property.

The cognitive dissonance between the image of the Whites oppressing the Blacks, the constant portrayal of "dangerous White racists" on t.v., and what actually goes on, who actually does the violence, is appalling, and is no accident. And do you really believe ignoring the problem is helping?

BTW, don't believe in Jesus myself, but...His "turn the other cheek" does not mean what many people seem to think it means. Which is a good thing, because extreme application of that philosophy would be suicidal. His "If you do not have a sword, sell your garment and buy one." is more applicable here.

She still has a few scars and last I talked to her a few years ago some nightmares about it to this day.  I'm tired of this argument with you.  Obviously nothing will shift your passionate belief that the black man is out to kill and rape you and that a white man has never done the same evils.