Unbelievable....

[bongaroo]

And bongeroo...  You are full of crap if you think most of us don't talk to everyone the same..   I would not talk to a cowardly bunch of gangbangers like I do here but one on one?   hell with em.   I do know that a group of these feral animals is dangerous and it is best to avoid them or be able to use a firearm against em.

lamezs,

who is the us you are referring to?  are you saying your fine being a racist on the internet but not when confronted with the issue out in the real world?  maybe some ellaboration.

I know I talk the same here as I do to everyone everywhere else.  Nothing to be scared of

[Cthulhu]

poor whites must be doing the same then, listening to racist drivel about how the black/hispanic/asian is taking their jobs and pillaging their towns.

Racism is pretty stupid on all fronts.

I know what you mean. If that Asian family next door produces one more doctor, lawyer, scientist, or engineer, I'm just gonna hafta move.

[bongaroo]

Well I didn't say Cthulhu is scared of them did I?

[lazs2]

I can excuse you bongaroo since you don't know me.    I talk to people the same here as in person.. maybe worse in person since it is more fun to see their face.

I would gladly talk to a group of trash gangbangers any way I wanted so long as I was armed.   

You are making my point in any case.. the reason most are afraid to say what they think is because of the reprecusions that are all out of proportion..  you shouldn't get attacked and killed by 6 guys for something you say or for defending an innocent.. 

You shouldn't be charged with extra crime based soley on the fact that someone felt that any white on black crime should be a "hate" crime.

You should not have to walk on eggs at your job because only one race is allowed to say what they want.

Nope.. what you do.. if you have the power.. is to avoid those aholes and their "black culture"..  if worse comes to worse.. you make sure that you can defend yourself tho.

lazs

[bongaroo]

I don't know why I'm being lumped in with the "apologists".  I've merely stated that racism is ignorant and defending it with more ignorance isn't helping.

I haven't said a word to defend "hate crime" laws either.

You sure do try to put a lot of words in other peoples mouths Lamez.

[midnight Target]

hhmm... i notice silence from the one that seemed to be defending these scumbags........

Try really hard to point out anything I said that "defended" the scumbags.... really hard.

[lazs2]

bong.. It is you who are putting the words in peoples mouth..  I did not say you were in favor of hate crimes..  I don't really know if you are or not..  why not tell us?

I said that they were one of the reasons for avoiding contact with that race whenever possible.

lazs

[CAP1]

What a silly thread!

Black vs White, allegations on BOTH sides that only lead to stupidity.

Perpatrators vs Victims...color or sexual orientation be damned!

My favorite analogy of race and sexual orientation is this:

You are in the Military...you are the Point in a Patrol...a Sniper gut shoots you...you lie writhing on the ground...

Question?  Do you give a damn about the Color, or Sexual Orientation of the person who risks his or her life to aid you?

Perpetrator=Sniper   Victim=You

no i don't. and i don't give a dam about that stuff in the thread either. the discussion has gone to who does these crimes more, and there seems to be some problem for some to accept that black men are more likely to eff someone up than white men.

[BnZ]

Ack: I stand by what I said. You like making a one-liner for the amusement of those in the peanut gallery. Which is fine when we are talking about something basically unimportant, like our airplane video game, but irrelevant when it comes down to a serious issue.

Statistics tell us that Blacks commit violent crime at a rate 9 times that of Whites, and that nearly 1 in 4 Black males will be convicted of a crime in their lifetime. There is no sugar coating the fact that if you take a large random cross-section of Whites, of Asians, and of Blacks, the Blacks will have more violent criminals. And thus are a worse risk. Followed by Whites, then the Asians with the fewest violent criminals of all...the stats don't lie on that matter either. (How do you liberals like THAT for White supremacism?)

Yet some suburban house-wife, who weighs 115 lbs soaking wet, who locks her car doors when passing a group of the "da boyz in da hood", is considered a horrible racist and irrational. White people who move to get out of bad neighborhoods are considered horrible racists. This is a clear sign of how backwards our thinking is becoming.

Oh BTW, since you asked...be reasonable. When I pass a Black guy who is 70 or obviously corporate lawyer or something, of course I don't feel like street crime is likely. When I've had occasion to drive through neighborhoods in Houston where there ARE violent Black criminals on the street corners, you are damned right I lock my doors AND am glad that I always have a gun in there. Even though I don't fit the "victim" profile and probably will never need the thing. I don't feel any guilt over this, I don't feel it is anymore irrational than being able to tell the difference between a rattlesnake and a coachwhip and adjusting my reactions accordingly.

Bong: Of all the children you know who "hated" Blacks, how many killed a Black person? Raped a Black person?  Beat a Black person within an inch of their lives? How many of even the most "racist" Whites do you know who have ever done ANY tangible harm to any Black or other minority? You see, that is the most mind boggling thing. For race-baiting apologists and self-hating Whites, a White merely disliking Blacks is apparently as bad or worse than racially-motivated rape or murder. The very worst of them will see it as a just motive for violent crimes against Whites.  

Oh please, if you don't like someone disagreeing with your comments, don't post them and your feelings won't be hurt.



Saying that I don't fee 'unsafe' when I walk by a black person hardly makes me an apologist for this crime.  I'm just saying that I don't feel unsafe when I walk next to a black man, an Asian or anyone else of another race or ethnic backround.  To me, it's not the skin that makes someone a criminal but their actions.  

Do you really cross the street when you see a blackman walking your way on the same side of the sidewalk?  Do you take the next elevator just because there is a black man entering the same elevator as you?  Do you instinctively reach behind and touch your back pocket to make sure your wallet is there when you pass a black man on the street?  Do you lock the doors in your car when you drive down the street and see a group of black men at the street corner?  


ack-ack

[Cthulhu]

Well I didn't say Cthulhu is scared of them did I?

Dread Cthulhu's not afraid of anything.  Hey, you never told me if Charlie Goodnight's is still there in Raleigh.

[CAP1]

poor whites must be doing the same then, listening to racist drivel about how the black/hispanic/asian is taking their jobs and pillaging their towns.

Racism is pretty stupid on all fronts.

yes, they are. you can tell which ones they are too, very easily. go to the mall, and look and find the white kids that dress like the black kids. thats them. they hate just as much as the black kids......but the black kids mostly hate white people...the white kids that hang with them hate everyone i think.....

[CAP1]

I know what you mean. If that Asian family next door produces one more doctor, lawyer, scientist, or engineer, I'm just gonna hafta move.

point.......Cthulhu

[CAP1]

Try really hard to point out anything I said that "defended" the scumbags.... really hard.

""it was sensationalized by white supremist groups.""

in it's own way, this is saying""it's not that bad"" a roundabout defense.

""you sensationalize it by claiming things that did not happen, like the girl was held for "days", she wasn't,""

this is like telling the guy that just lost his leg..it's only a flesh wound..another roundabout defense.

""I must add here that it is funny how the repuliclowns alway scream loudest when someone "plays the race card", while so many of you do just that in threads like this""

not really a defense, but trying to shift into the "race card" BS. the thread started off as ""a bunch of kids beat up a father as he was trying to defend his daughter from one of them"" it just so happened they were black. 

 i still want to know what you think would've happened had the father been black, and the kids been white....

""
Which brings us full circle.

The indignance over these crimes was partially based on lies and rumors. Just like in the Duke case. Yet so many in this thread were ready to point a finger and say Blacks are bad! Seeee!!!!!. ""

there was originally no finger pointing, and at least as for me and a couple others, you might look back and see mention of the fact that color, race, etc are irrelevent...and i did see one of your posts say the same i think....

gernerally, as i said before, when race comes into anything, if it's between black and white men, it's always a black man that brings it in first.

 regardless of what race these kids are, they should be suffering right now...and they;re not. they fkd that girl up for life. and her dad too.
 i'd be willing to bet that their violence towards him could even be considered terrorism

[Hangtime]

...I talk to people the same here as in person.. maybe worse in person since it is more fun to see their face.
lazs

Yup. He's always been an equal opportunity instigator. 

...prolly why I like readin his stuff so much. Makes me think... question my values... torment my pets.

 

Hang

[Shamus]

sue the amusement park.

You are making more sense than you may know.

Back about 20 years ago or so I was part owner of a security guard company and we used to contract with these types of places.

Now back then if we agreed to secure a place and the client followed the security plan proposed, we were on the hook by way of a hold harmless if something happened, and would get sued for damages by the injured party, this was pre tort reform, I wouldn't care as much now because negligence has been narrowed to the point where the exposure is a lot more limited.

It's not really rocket science...client in Detroit, I would put together a team of big mean black dudes, downriver area we would recruit the nastiest rednecks we could find.

The problem was training these guys in the art of restraint, some of them loved their jobs too much.

I never got sued by one of the recipients of the guards attentions. 

shamus