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Offline indy007

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Re: Rampage Jackson arrested
« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2008, 09:09:30 AM »
I don't see how the UFC could NOT take some sort of action.

Guys that sell tickets rarely get in trouble. Sherk didn't get in trouble after getting caught roiding up. All he lost was his title, and that was because he wasn't available to defend it. BJ Penn has gotten in trouble for punching out police officers in Hawaii, and he headlines events.

Babalu got kicked to the curb for holding a choke two seconds longer than he should have... but he doesn't sell tickets.

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Re: Rampage Jackson arrested
« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2008, 09:12:46 AM »
Guys that sell tickets rarely get in trouble. Sherk didn't get in trouble after getting caught roiding up. All he lost was his title, and that was because he wasn't available to defend it. BJ Penn has gotten in trouble for punching out police officers in Hawaii, and he headlines events.

Babalu got kicked to the curb for holding a choke two seconds longer than he should have... but he doesn't sell tickets.

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babalu also got cought with coke 2 weeks prior to that fight.
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Re: Rampage Jackson arrested
« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2008, 09:14:56 AM »
Or a 45 year old aging athlete at the end of his career who wanted a fat paycheck to fight the supposed pound for pound king (who hadn't fought anybody worth mentioning in 3 years). To end his contract, all he had to do was take 1 more fight. It probably would've been Noguirea. After that, he'd of been free to do whatever he wanted.
if all he wanted was money then he wouldn't go to another promotion (looks like it's gunna be Affliction) and get less money. All he cares about is fighting the best. Fedor is still the best until he gets beat.
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Re: Rampage Jackson arrested
« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2008, 10:15:42 AM »
Who? :huh
This guy.....

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« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2008, 11:38:04 AM »
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Re: Rampage Jackson arrested
« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2008, 11:44:48 AM »
I've never really cared for Rampage ever since I saw a clip on TMZ of him in front of some night club and the camera guy ask him what he thought about that guy who played for the Redskins and was shot & killed, he said that if your a black man in America and you have to call 911 to make sure you make yourself sound white otherwise they wont come fast enough to help you, after that I lost all respect for him, I was really glad to see Forest Griffin kick his butt July 5th.

If Dana White doesn't do anything to him after this then there's something wrong with him, but I'm sure he will end up at the very least suspend him for some time, personally I think his UFC career should be ended after what he did, not only did he hit 2 cars and take off, he drove on the sidewalk a few times causing people to flee for there lives, he could have easily killed someone.

I'm a big UFC fan and if nothing is done to him I'm gonna lose alot of respect for the UFC.
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Re: Rampage Jackson arrested
« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2008, 12:34:17 PM »
I would be shocked if Dana White did nothing, but kicking him out of the UFC is probably not going to happen.  Dana seems to be the kind of guy who is willing to give someone a second chance, if they do the right thing to get it.  If you have noticed, Jesse Taylor will be fighting CB Dollaway this Saturday night.  Jesse is certainly not a draw for the UFC but he was given a second chance based on his personal efforts to get his life straight so he can represent the UFC the way Dana expects his fighters to do.  I would expect Dana and Quinton to have a meeting and Dana to set some guidelines to be followed if Rampage wants to continue to be a UFC fighter.

As for Randy Couture, I lost all respect for him.  If it was not about the money, he should not have claimed it was, and that Dana White was ripping him off.  If not for the UFC Couture would not be earning 25% of what he earns today.  The UFC was almost Randy Couture TV for a period of time, not only was he a fighter but he also had a personal services contract.  He made almost 2 million in each of his last 2 fights.  I know that is not Boxing money, but it is certainly more than MMA fighters would expect to earn outside of the UFC.  As a huge fan of the UFC I took Randy's actions as a slap in the face.  As far as wanting to fight Fedor... Fedor is an idiot for not going to the UFC.  He is fighting Tim Silvia for a title in whatever organization he is in now (M1 I believe).  Big deal, Fedor probably did not want to get exposed for being the most over rated fighter in MMA, which would have happened in the UFC.
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Re: Rampage Jackson arrested
« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2008, 12:48:19 PM »
Babalu got kicked to the curb for holding a choke two seconds longer than he should have... but he doesn't sell tickets.

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I'm glad Sobral was fired by Dana White, what he did at the end of that fight against David Heath was completely unacceptable.  If you saw the fight you can hear how the crowd had completely turned on him after he did that, they were all booing him.  All David did was call him a mf'er at the weight in, no way does that give him the right to continue to choke out Heath after he taps & Steve Mazzagatti tells him to stop.

Up until the end it was a really good fight, probably one of the bloodiest fights I've ever seen, after Heath got his forehead open up it was like a horror movie, the blood was just pouring off his head, there was literally a puddle of blood behind his head on the mat.

Sobral really messed up his career with that move, now he fights for second & third rate MMA organizations, and the Nevada state athletic board took half his purse from that night, $25k.  I mean what did he think was gonna happen, you can't pull a move like that and not expect some sever consequences.
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Re: Rampage Jackson arrested
« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2008, 12:51:52 PM »
  All David did was call him a mf'er at the weight in, no way does that give him the right to continue to choke out Heath after he taps & Steve Mazzagatti tells him to stop.

, and the Nevada state athletic board took half his purse from that night, $25k.  I mean what did he think was gonna happen, you can't pull a move like that and not expect some sever consequences.

Hmm...not a Babulu fan at all, but in this case, have to say..worth it.

How much of the purse do you have to give up to choke a smack-talker 'till he sees a bright light at the end of a tunnel?

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Re: Rampage Jackson arrested
« Reply #24 on: July 16, 2008, 12:54:14 PM »
(M1 I believe)

Affliction: Banned. This weekend on PPV! If the fiance lets me, I'm putting 2 TV's side by side so I can watch the PPV and the free UFC card at the same time. The brand itself annoys me. It looks like a graphics designer puked on their shirts... but certainly getting the ppv :)

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Fedor probably did not want to get exposed for being the most over rated fighter in MMA, which would have happened in the UFC.

Fedor is actually bad news. His only loss was 8 years ago, by cut. He's taken 2 decisions over Nogueira, who just took Tim Sylvia's title with a beautiful choke (who the hell thinks to run up and pull half guard on a guy that's 6'6"?!). Sobral, Arona, Herring, Coleman, Randleman, Crocop, Hunt, Lindland, Fujita... he's already owned a whos-who list, and those guys were all juiced up at the time over in Japan. There's good reason for all the hype around him.

now that said... I actually have Sylvia by round 1 TKO.

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Re: Rampage Jackson arrested
« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2008, 01:04:09 PM »
I would be shocked if Dana White did nothing, but kicking him out of the UFC is probably not going to happen.  Dana seems to be the kind of guy who is willing to give someone a second chance, if they do the right thing to get it.  If you have noticed, Jesse Taylor will be fighting CB Dollaway this Saturday night.  Jesse is certainly not a draw for the UFC but he was given a second chance based on his personal efforts to get his life straight so he can represent the UFC the way Dana expects his fighters to do.  I would expect Dana and Quinton to have a meeting and Dana to set some guidelines to be followed if Rampage wants to continue to be a UFC fighter.

As for Randy Couture, I lost all respect for him.  If it was not about the money, he should not have claimed it was, and that Dana White was ripping him off.  If not for the UFC Couture would not be earning 25% of what he earns today.  The UFC was almost Randy Couture TV for a period of time, not only was he a fighter but he also had a personal services contract.  He made almost 2 million in each of his last 2 fights.  I know that is not Boxing money, but it is certainly more than MMA fighters would expect to earn outside of the UFC.  As a huge fan of the UFC I took Randy's actions as a slap in the face.  As far as wanting to fight Fedor... Fedor is an idiot for not going to the UFC.  He is fighting Tim Silvia for a title in whatever organization he is in now (M1 I believe).  Big deal, Fedor probably did not want to get exposed for being the most over rated fighter in MMA, which would have happened in the UFC.
Fedor had HUGE reasons for not signing with the UFC. Fedor would have to give away his likeness to the UFC for free, he would have to stop competing with the national Russian Judo team.( i think it was Judo). Fedor is not one of those guys that doesn't  fight for fame, or money but for the actual sport it self. The fact is that the UFC and Dana White really scrued over randy by not doing everything in the power to sign Fedor. Can u really blame Randy for not wanting to fight guys that Fedors already beaten (Nogera) but not the man himself? There is more to MMA than the UFC.
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Re: Rampage Jackson arrested
« Reply #26 on: July 16, 2008, 01:06:58 PM »


now that said... I actually have Sylvia by round 1 TKO.
naaa Fedor takes the decison easy.


P.S. the Affliction card is by far better than the last 2 UFC's combined.
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Re: Rampage Jackson arrested
« Reply #27 on: July 16, 2008, 01:10:40 PM »
naaa Fedor takes the decison easy.


P.S. the Affliction card is by far better than the last 2 UFC's combined.

I fully expect Fedor to win by round 1 armbar.
I hope Sylvia runs out and KO's him. :)

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Re: Rampage Jackson arrested
« Reply #28 on: July 16, 2008, 01:13:23 PM »
Fedor had HUGE reasons for not signing with the UFC. Fedor would have to give away his likeness to the UFC for free, he would have to stop competing with the national Russian Judo team.( i think it was Judo). Fedor is not one of those guys that doesn't  fight for fame, or money but for the actual sport it self. The fact is that the UFC and Dana White really scrued over randy by not doing everything in the power to sign Fedor. Can u really blame Randy for not wanting to fight guys that Fedors already beaten (Nogera) but not the man himself? There is more to MMA than the UFC.

Yea, and there is more to Football than the NFL also. That Canadian League is awesome! I suppose it is all speculation as to what extent the UFC went to sign Fedor.  I know I wasn't there, and I assume you werent at the negotiations so anything else is hearsay. It is a shame it never happened.  Regardless, Couture is dead to me, I will never be a fan of his again. I probably diminished Fedor's accomplishments, I was impressed with him in Pride. I still think he screwed up by not going to the UFC, if you are going to fight in MMA why not fight for the top dog, make your money and get your exposure.  I suppose it's admirable to say he doesn't fight for money, if that is the case why would be giving his likeness away for free an issue?  Like it or not, MMA is now a business.  I love the UFC and how they market themselves and present their events.  It is heads and tails above everything else in my book.  Did you see that joke Elite XC put on CBS?  Between the Phil Baroni walkout, and Frank Shamrock they probably drove away more people from MMA than they converted.  Frank Shamrock, what an idiot.
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Re: Rampage Jackson arrested
« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2008, 01:33:09 PM »
Fedor had HUGE reasons for not signing with the UFC. Fedor would have to give away his likeness to the UFC for free, he would have to stop competing with the national Russian Judo team.( i think it was Judo). Fedor is not one of those guys that doesn't  fight for fame, or money but for the actual sport it self. The fact is that the UFC and Dana White really scrued over randy by not doing everything in the power to sign Fedor. Can u really blame Randy for not wanting to fight guys that Fedors already beaten (Nogera) but not the man himself? There is more to MMA than the UFC.

Sambo actually. A strange Russian thing where you roll around on the ground and try to rip each others feet off.  :huh

And there was more than that. Fedor's management team was demanding the UFC come to Russia and put on a cooperative show with them. That's never going to happen. They have the only successful business model because they push the brand and not the fighter. They wouldn't even compromise with HBO. Either they produce the entire show, or there is no show. You can't argue against their position, since their success speaks for itself.