Author Topic: Democrats Are Weighing More Tax Rebates  (Read 1075 times)

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Re: Democrats Are Weighing More Tax Rebates
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2008, 12:34:24 PM »
bush tax breaks were to help the economy, the democrat tax breaks are to get re-elected and then they will raise taxes.

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Re: Democrats Are Weighing More Tax Rebates
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2008, 12:39:59 PM »
yep
just a bait and switch

if obama man gets in, anyone with a decent paying job will have his/her shorts taxed off them in record time
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Re: Democrats Are Weighing More Tax Rebates
« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2008, 12:43:56 PM »
bush tax breaks were to help the economy, the democrat tax breaks are to get re-elected and then they will raise taxes.

 :rofl :rofl :rofl Keep on Drinking the Koolaid John.. you guys seriously crack me up sometimes.  At least lazs sticks to the same line on this one, supporting it regardless of who it's from.
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Re: Democrats Are Weighing More Tax Rebates
« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2008, 12:49:04 PM »
:rofl :rofl :rofl Keep on Drinking the Koolaid John.. you guys seriously crack me up sometimes.  At least lazs sticks to the same line on this one, supporting it regardless of who it's from.

Well hey, I'd take the money from either crook too...

It's just that after the check is cashed and the loyalties are determined that I'd rather it be the crook that makes it easier for rich people to stay rich, instead of the one making it easier for poor people to stay poor.

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Re: Democrats Are Weighing More Tax Rebates
« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2008, 12:50:52 PM »
:rofl :rofl :rofl Keep on Drinking the Koolaid John.. you guys seriously crack me up sometimes.  At least lazs sticks to the same line on this one, supporting it regardless of who it's from.

You really think that this proposal by the dems is anything other than an attempt to get their approval ratings up?

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Re: Democrats Are Weighing More Tax Rebates
« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2008, 12:55:00 PM »
You really think that this proposal by the dems is anything other than an attempt to get their approval ratings up?

Was the $500 Bush check anything different?


Personally I'm against any sort of tax breaks right now.. this country isn't in any position to be giving back extra tax money and that goes for the last $600 cut as well. I voiced my opinion against that one too. I just find it very funny how some of the same people that praised that tax cut are now bashing this one.
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Re: Democrats Are Weighing More Tax Rebates
« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2008, 12:59:47 PM »
I got a big fat zero from the last GWB sponsored rebate, so I'm guessing I'll get a big fat zero from any Dem sponsored one.

Actually, that's not true. If Obama wins the election, I'll be paying for any Dem sponsored rebates.

God I wish the GOP had found someone better than McCain.

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Re: Democrats Are Weighing More Tax Rebates
« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2008, 01:03:02 PM »
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Re: Democrats Are Weighing More Tax Rebates
« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2008, 01:17:32 PM »
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Personally I'm against any sort of tax breaks right now.. this country isn't in any position to be giving back extra tax money and that goes for the last $600 cut as well. I voiced my opinion against that one too. I just find it very funny how some of the same people that praised that tax cut are now bashing this one.

You should be all for tax cuts. The optimum tax rate is something like 23%, thats the point where the government will pull in the most revenue. (That's an overall tax rate, including hidden taxes). We are well over that, iirc we are at or very near 50% overall tax rate.
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Re: Democrats Are Weighing More Tax Rebates
« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2008, 01:27:02 PM »
I'll give Congress one point higher on my approval rating of them if I get another $2100 check. You bet.

I'm still not voting for the Commu-socialist of Islam, Obama.

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Re: Democrats Are Weighing More Tax Rebates
« Reply #25 on: July 18, 2008, 01:50:27 PM »
You should be all for tax cuts. The optimum tax rate is something like 23%, thats the point where the government will pull in the most revenue. (That's an overall tax rate, including hidden taxes). We are well over that, iirc we are at or very near 50% overall tax rate.

Well I personally think we should do away with the IRS and have a straight up flat tax on earnings. However no one is ever going to do that, it's one of those campaign promises that never happen. I seem to remember Bush making that exact promise in both of his campaigns but of course he never came through with it. The super rich would never let it happen because then they would have to pay their fair % based on earnings.

That was one of the things I was looking forward too under Bush even at the beginning before he turned to total dog poo. The onther was more funding for NASA which he side stepped on through his first term but finally came through in the second. Which oddly enough is one of the things I don't like about Obama, is he plans to cut NASA funding.

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Re: Democrats Are Weighing More Tax Rebates
« Reply #26 on: July 18, 2008, 02:14:54 PM »
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Well I personally think we should do away with the IRS and have a straight up flat tax on earnings. However no one is ever going to do that, it's one of those campaign promises that never happen. I seem to remember Bush making that exact promise in both of his campaigns but of course he never came through with it. The super rich would never let it happen because then they would have to pay their fair % based on earnings.


Bush can't set the tax rates, ever. Not unless he disbands Congress. It is Congress's job to levy taxes, all Bush can do is ask for it. (Dunno if he did that or not, but it's all he can do in the matter.) The super rich already pay far more in taxes than the rest of us in sheer dollar amounts. They pay far more than the rest of us in terms of % of revenue that the government brings in.
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Re: Democrats Are Weighing More Tax Rebates
« Reply #27 on: July 18, 2008, 02:29:30 PM »
We are well over that, iirc we are at or very near 50% overall tax rate.
We need to re-animate JFK so he can give his little-known tax rate speech again.

The super rich already pay far more in taxes than the rest of us in sheer dollar amounts. They pay far more than the rest of us in terms of % of revenue that the government brings in.
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Re: Democrats Are Weighing More Tax Rebates
« Reply #28 on: July 18, 2008, 02:31:59 PM »

Don't be a jerk off steve...

It's a simple question.. did they itch when Bush gave his tax breaks? if no then why are they itching now?

Because Nancy Pelosi and Congress have an averaged approval rating of 9%...
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Re: Democrats Are Weighing More Tax Rebates
« Reply #29 on: July 18, 2008, 04:43:43 PM »
Indeed, and they use little to none of the government programs they largely fund.

I pay taxes too and I don't use any govt aid programs, other than the basic services we are all provided.. IE luxury of a police force, fire dept paved roads ect..ect.

It's simple taxes are based on what you earn, if you earn a lot you should expect to pay more taxes. If you make 10 million a year, yes you likely will get owned by the tax man. However consider yourself lucky you were born in a country that gave you the ability to earn 10 million in a year. I don't think many of the super rich would have made their millions & billions living in Hatti or other less fortunate places.

They made their riches because of the opportunity provided in this country, so they should expect to pay their dues just like anyone else.
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