World War II Radar

[GunnerCAF]

I'm new here, so am I allowed one dumb question?   Why would anyone not want (an in-flight) radar in the regular arena?  

It is not a historic arena and it is an air combat simulation.  I feel the radar a good compromise.  At close range is not reliable or accurate.  At long range it's good enough to find the action and squad.

Gunner <CAF>
GunrCAF



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[iculus]

...and a bitter response to Gunner

In flight radar does have it's good points.  For instance, I remember logging on to another sim and having trouble finding a fight.  Radar helps.  Sector bars, and friends on the radio should be enough.  I just feel that the current system gives us more info than necessary.

Welcome to AH!

Salute!
IC

[Vulcan]

I saw a doco on the WW2 radar on Wings once. The acoustic devices were amazing, they could pick up Lancs rolling from England.

Personally I think the AH radar is a damn good balance.

To all the 'i miss suprise attack' whiners out there: if you really REALLY wanted suprise attacks you'd simply take a light JU or an Arado ahead of your main force and de-dar bases along the flightpath. Easy solution eh? Why didn't you think of it eh? I know - cos you're to busy whinin  

It also has the advantage that a LOT of people use dar in AH as a crutch. So when bases are de-dar'd along behind the front people find it very hard to hunt the buffs.

Now the dar bars are still there, but hey, you really think in WW2 just cos the dar was out nobody noticed a toejamload of German bombers flying over???

[GunnerCAF]

That wasn't too bitter Iculus   thanks for the welcome.

How about chaff?  It could be loaded on bombers. When the chaff is dropped it would cause false radar contacts.  If it could be limited so it's not over used, it would be a good diversion for a coordinated bomber attack    I think this was used in WW2 during D Day.

Gunner <CAF>

[Pepe]

Vulcan, on the Dot-Radar.

Well, I think rebuild time of Radar Stations at airfields is too short. They are complex equipment that, IMO, should take quite e bit of time to rebuild. I think there should be 2 stages of damage in Airfield Radar. We should have radar antennas, easily damageable, and repairable, and Radar houses, hardened structures difficult to destroy, but with a lengthy recovery time.

Anyway, the problem is not with the Dot Radar. Well, it partially lies with the fact that it lives in our GPS/AWACS in-flight system. But the REAL problem is that no matter the alt you are flying, and no matter wether you are doing that over friendly or enemy territory, you appear on the counter bar. That pretty much negates the surprise.

Cheers,

Pepe

[Nexus]

Has any one noticed that the Radar antenna looks like a modern satelite dish?

Shouldn't it be a series of towers connected by wires?

And shouldn't it be on a hill?

Geegads... I'm starting to sound like those realism freaks!

Nexus

[popeye]

Reducing the update rate for the DAR as it is, seems to be the easiest compromise.  Just update every minute or two, and it can still be used to find a fight, but not for "enhanced SA".

Maybe make the update rate affected by damage to HQ.


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[Cobra]

Chaff was also used by RAF Mosquito's to make it look like a raid was going to Berlin, when actually the RAF Lancasters were off to bomb the V2 development site in Prien (sp?).

Cobra

[iculus]

Good call Vulcan!  Although the down time is short.  Hitting the radar factory could fix the problem.  Still miss that element of surprise though.

Chaff would be a great addition to scenarios!  (Somehow I see it snowing bits of foil if we had it in the MA )

Salute,
IC

[juzz]

For Nexus
   
Würzburg FuMG 39; first deliveries in 1940. This radar was used to guide nightfighters and Flak guns.

 
Chain Home radar station; the transmitting towers are on left, with the seperate receiving towers on right of picture. The prototype station was made operational in 1937, and by September 1939 there were 20 operational CH stations.

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