ENY value for F6F

[Kingonads]

Thnx I am working on my aiming skills with the P38 takes some getting used to. I like flying it so far it fustrates me sometimes its nothing like my Zero or like the KI61 of last tour and without the Dive flaps doing much for me in a dive its a lot of work but so far I am breaking even in it.  I am tring a new thing with it I am flying it like a P47razorback it has similar E charecteristics and speed limits.  But I have to remember NEVER push a attack in a bad situation like I am so famuos for.  

                     Hodo

[StSanta]

4 50s and 1 hisp.

How CAN you miss?  

[B52Charlie]

I'm getting a headache reading these posts, anyways from what i've seen there are only about 3-4 guys to worry about when they are in a f6f and you can pretty much disengage from them at will with a couple S's. or spiral climb. So why is the f6f so short on eny ? Doesn't take a brain surgeon to see in the MA that f6fs are 94% fodder. And for any great f6f guys reading this, lets face it when you're in one and get there, get kills, get home you're pattin yourselfs on the back. And if you have made it home it's because you're fighting in an area with many countrymen near to bail ya out when a p51 or or any # or planes are running you down. Don't get me wrong I like the f6f its classy bird and when I make it back to the carrier or base I feel like i've been reborn.

[ra]

B52,

Better planes are supposed to be assigned lower ENY's, but many planes with lower ENY's perform worse in the arena than planes with higher ENY's, that's what started this thread.

ra

[F4UDOA]

The ENY values for the F4U-1D and F6F have been reversed. It is now 18 for the -1D and 22 for the F6F.

BTW the P51D and FW190D9 are also 18, go figure. And the FW190A5 is still 30??? WTF

[Urchin]

The 190A5 is not a killer ride guys...  I fought Westy in a F6f in one 3 tiems yesterday, the only close one was the 1st fight.  The other 2 fights I was summarily executed.  Lets take a look at the 190a5 though, because I understand that many of you don't fly it.  2x7.92mm MGs (useless), and 2x20mm cannon with 500 rounds (total).  This is the option I normally fly with, because the option for 2x20mm with 250 ammo and 2x20mm with 55 ammo doesnt make much sense to me.  You use up the low ammo cannons on your first burst (if you have crap aim like me anyway).  The 190a5 can't turn with any allied plane, can't turn with any British plane, can't turn with any Russian plane, and can't turn with any Japanese plane.  And no, it can't turn with the Italian planes either.  The climb rate is fairly anemic, about 2500fpm around 10k.  The roll rate is good, the elevator authority is pretty bad, and the acceleration is mediocre, except in a dive, during which time the acceleration is fairly good.  The only reason the 190a5 has a good record is because the pilots flying it understand that their plane is not made of dogfighting, nor furballing alone.  I am a LOT more careful in the 190 than I am in the 109, as far as choosing my battles.  Being careful leads to a better score, IMO.

[Zigrat]

if you have flown these planes you know

1) the f4u-1d is as good a ma plane as the p51.. its marginally slower, but has more ammo and is mroe durable. it also has a slightly smaller turning circle. i would say the p51 fw190 d9 and f4u-1 are very well matched, just in different ways

durability

1)f4u
2)tie (pony and dora)

turning
1)f4u
2)p51
3)dora

climb
1)dora
2)p51
c) f4u

speed
1)dora
2)p51
3)f4u

guns
1)f4u
2)p51
3)fw190d9

ord carrying capability
1)f4u
2)p51
3)dora

eeach has strengths and weaknesses but i would say all are about equal

[ra]

Zig,

You forgot roll:

1)Dora
2)F4U
3)P51

Also I would have given the Dora the best guns.  The problem is the cockpit geometry which doesn't allow for good deflection shooting, but if you can hit anything those guns are powerful.

ra

[Booky]

I also think the F6F value is too low. But I have been seeing a wierd thing with it. Is the 50 cal in the F6F the same as the 50 cal in the F4U-D? I mean I hit things with the F4U-D and they take soem dammage but when I hit someone with a burts from the F6F they almost always lose a wing or catch fire. Not sure if its just me imagioning things but thats what I see.

[AKDejaVu]

They are the same.  Fly it more.. the guns will seem less effective.

Go up against an Il-2 if you really want to see what I'm talking about.

AKDejaVu