MT and the rest of Hillary lovers

[midnight Target]

The fact that you think you know more than all of these historical scholars speaks volumes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_United_States_Presidents

[lasersailor184]

The fact that you think you know more than all of these historical scholars speaks volumes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_United_States_Presidents

The fact that those historical scholars put FDR in the top 5 speaks volume about their credibility, and as such, their list.

[midnight Target]

Yeah, what do a bunch of guys who've studied history and earned PHD's know anyway?

[lasersailor184]

Yeah, what do a bunch of guys who've studied history and earned PHD's know anyway?

Apparently not much.  If Widrow Wilson and FDR aren't at the bottom of the list, then that means those PHD's are worthless.

Err, I apologize.  They have worth as kindling, not much else.

[ChickenHawk]

Until there's no bread for the peons. Then it's time to sharpen up these:

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Oui, long live Empereur Napoleon!

The new is as bad as the old.

[wrag]

Yeah, what do a bunch of guys who've studied history and earned PHD's know anyway?

I learned some time ago that a PHD only means someone has put in the necessary effort to obtain it, jumping through many hoops set up by those that obtained there PHD earlier, and way too often not much else.............

Way too many times over the years too many of those with all the letters n such behind and before their names have PROVEN themselves to be very HUMAN, FALLIBLE, and WRONG FROM THE GETGO....

AND then there is all that common knowledge they hold soooo dear among themselves, that later proves to be sooooo WRONG..

AND sadly some are already BOUGHT and paid for..........

AND some get SOOOO puffed up with PRIDE over those little letters it's .........

Known one or two over the years.......

Might try lookin at ALL the information available and doing a little homework?

[Bones]

Seems to me the best or worst Presidents are pretty much chosen based on what is important to the individual.

Personally, I think Bush is the worst President that has ever been in office.  That is based on my personal criteria.

As far as the Clintons go, they have not really tried to hide the fact they can get away with things.  They say it with their actions and arrogance.  Anyone that arrogant normally believes they are above the law as well as being above most people.  Nothing personal Midnight, but you seem like an intelligent fellow who happens to be pretty arrogant as well.  I can see you easily siding with the Clintons.  Birds of a feather and all that rot.  Again, nothing personal.

I can be arrogant and I know it.  It is hard not to be sometimes when you have knowledge about things that people "claim" they want to fix with our world.  I learned the hard way that knowledge is worthless in a society that puts more stock into some dumb bimbo's latest snatch shot than in improving the life of people on this planet.

Ego's and pettiness is what drives our society.  Sad really.  I often wonder how many others out there get shut down for trying to help improve things because of their station in society.

I digress, forgive me.  People like the Clintons will always be able to get around the law.  They own the law.  They manipulate it and when they do not, someone else will do it for them as people of that stature cannot bear one of their own to be subject to the common law of mankind.

[bongaroo]

"MT and the rest of Hillary lovers"

grammar much?

[AKIron]

"MT and the rest of Hillary lovers"

grammar much?

"Grammar much?"

You?

[midnight Target]

I learned some time ago that a PHD only means someone has put in the necessary effort to obtain it, jumping through many hoops set up by those that obtained there PHD earlier, and way too often not much else.............

Way too many times over the years too many of those with all the letters n such behind and before their names have PROVEN themselves to be very HUMAN, FALLIBLE, and WRONG FROM THE GETGO....

AND then there is all that common knowledge they hold soooo dear among themselves, that later proves to be sooooo WRONG..

AND sadly some are already BOUGHT and paid for..........

AND some get SOOOO puffed up with PRIDE over those little letters it's .........

Known one or two over the years.......

Might try lookin at ALL the information available and doing a little homework?

Or maybe they just know more than you.

The link I posted listed several surveys done over several decades using dozens if not hundreds of history professionals as subjects in each survey. I find it hard to believe that you and laser have the market cornered on historical knowledge of the Presidents through your "lookin".  

[lasersailor184]

And again, I find it hard to believe that you cannot simply acknowledge that FDR and Widrow Wilson screwed up this country in ways we have yet to recover from.



It's a simple thing.  No mathematician gains credence until he knows how to add.  No historian gains credibility until he realizes that Widrow Wilson and FDR were more damaging leaders than Musolini and Hitler (hitler's jew killing penchant aside).

[bongaroo]

"Grammar much?"

You?

I think you missed the point 

[wrag]

Or maybe they just know more than you.

The link I posted listed several surveys done over several decades using dozens if not hundreds of history professionals as subjects in each survey. I find it hard to believe that you and laser have the market cornered on historical knowledge of the Presidents through your "lookin". 

Seen enough that I often QUESTION the PHD's claims!

Why don't you go examine CAREFULLY how a PHD is obtained and who gives it?  Then think upon the FACTS of what you see?

IIRC the common HISTORY PHD CLAIMED that Custer and his troops were massacred as they so gallantly fought at the battle of the Little Bighorn for MANY years.  In fact when I was going to school that was what we were taught, that was the common knowledge..........

BUT when ALL the information finally came out things became MUCH different!

Seems lots of people got caught with their hands in the cookie jar so to speak....

[Shamus]

Even the Wall Street Journal ranked FDR and Wilson highly...untrustworthy liberal rag.

shamus

[Ack-Ack]

The real irony is that you think you are saying something by quoting Lincoln, one of the worst presidents this nation has ever had.

Because he saved the Union and abolished slavery?


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