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Offline Yarbles

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Standard Response
« on: July 21, 2008, 07:14:20 AM »
On saturday after flying 234's I not for the first time said what the game needs is a flight of less highly perked than the 234 Mossie bombers.

The immediate response was what the game needs is perked B29's but without the nuke.

Now its so obvious its almost a reflex. We have loads of Bomber perks but nothing worthwhile to spend them on.
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Re: Standard Response
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2008, 07:30:57 AM »
Quote from: Yarbles on July 21, 2008, 07:14:20 AM

Now its so obvious its almost a reflex. We have loads of Bomber perks but nothing worthwhile to spend them on.

I think you just answered your own question there...We DO have so many bomber perks that if something like the B29 were introduced we'd see nothing but B29's for a very, very long time before all those perks were exhausted.
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Re: Standard Response
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2008, 07:34:15 AM »
A26 lightly to moderately perked depending on ord/guns loadout options.

Seaplanes, I'd spend my bomber perks to be able to fly H8k, PBY, Short Sunderland, etc.

Unique ord, Tallboy, Grand Slam, skipping bombs, parafrags, delayed ord bombs for NOE bombing runs.
I'd pay bomber perks for each gladly if they were reasonable. (no nukes need apply)

There are a lot of things HTC could choose from that would add to the experience, immersion and give us a place to burn some bomber perks. But I know they are busy working away so I try to be patient.
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Re: Standard Response
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2008, 07:34:42 AM »
Quote from: Zazen13 on July 21, 2008, 07:30:57 AM
I think you just answered your own question there...We DO have so many bomber perks that if something like the B29 were introduced we'd see nothing but B29's for a very, very long time before all those perks were exhausted.

Then perk them at 200 a piece or more until them perks is used up eh
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Re: Standard Response
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2008, 07:39:31 AM »
Possible perk bombers not yet added to AH:

A-26 Invader
B-29A Superfortress
Mosquito B.Mk XVI

Maybe:

Il-10
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Re: Standard Response
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2008, 08:29:45 AM »
Quote from: Karnak on July 21, 2008, 07:39:31 AM

Mosquito B.Mk XVI


The obvious Choice :aok
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Re: Standard Response
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2008, 09:53:52 AM »
Quote from: Karnak on July 21, 2008, 07:39:31 AM
Mosquito B.Mk XVI
Maybe give the 152's something to do.:D  Besides, I wanna see a CV get hit with the "cookie".
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Re: Standard Response
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2008, 10:39:50 AM »
Quote from: Cthulhu on July 21, 2008, 09:53:52 AM
Maybe give the 152's something to do.:D  Besides, I wanna see a CV get hit with the "cookie".

 :aok

But in the meantime you have the lancs for that.
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Re: Standard Response
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2008, 11:13:27 AM »
Quote from: Zazen13 on July 21, 2008, 07:30:57 AM
I think you just answered your own question there...We DO have so many bomber perks that if something like the B29 were introduced we'd see nothing but B29's for a very, very long time before all those perks were exhausted.
Easy solution to the perk inflation
1. perk formations
2. perk certain loadouts

You can still fly the bomber effectively without any perks, or you can easily burn hundreds of perks in suicide formations runs.
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Re: Standard Response
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2008, 12:16:31 PM »
Quote from: bozon on July 21, 2008, 11:13:27 AM
Easy solution to the perk inflation
1. perk formations
2. perk certain loadouts

You can still fly the bomber effectively without any perks, or you can easily burn hundreds of perks in suicide formations runs.
I like that idea. I'd much rather roll in on one buff instead of three.
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Re: Standard Response
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2008, 01:22:55 PM »
Quote from: Zazen13 on July 21, 2008, 07:30:57 AM
I  if something like the B29 were introduced we'd see nothing but B29's for a very, very long time before all those perks were exhausted.

Would be ok though, doncha think?
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Re: Standard Response
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2008, 01:56:29 PM »
Quote from: bozon on July 21, 2008, 11:13:27 AM

2. perk certain loadouts



I've always been a huge fan of this idea. Pyro stated a while back that this was a design concept that was planned for implementation. It would be a great way to enhance balance while still allowing the use of nontraditional load-outs and aircraft. It could possibly even be tied to ENY in a creative way to provide more options to the low side and restrict the options available to the high side. I certainly hope the idea of perked load-outs is still on the horizon.
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Re: Standard Response
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2008, 02:00:26 PM »
Quote from: Steve on July 21, 2008, 01:22:55 PM
Would be ok though, doncha think?

Well, it depends, as has been discussed ad nausea in many B29 wishlist threads, on how they are modelled and implemented. If modelled ultra-realistically and/or insufficiently perked they would be all but invulnerable to prop fighters, heralding in a lengthy dark era of unchecked toolshed-ism. Given the fact that many players have literally hundreds of thousands of bomber perks it could definitely present a serious balance issue for quite a while...
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Re: Standard Response
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2008, 02:03:14 PM »
Give me up to 5 bombers in a formation.  First one free and after that 10 perks each.  Perk all the heavy bombers the same because each has advantages. 
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Re: Standard Response
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2008, 03:22:25 PM »
My wish always goes for either special ordnance (like Tallboy or even the Grand slam, or a bounce bomb) or (much more wanted) the V-1 by the batches....
Really, I think that in AHII they'd make a hell of a fun.
Remember them from CFS, and from a games program a long time ago.
Not much use, but good for distraction, and some fun...
(Unlike the RL)
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