please make death more costly HTC :)

[Phantom121]

A short delay (say 2 mins) before you can spawn after a death.  It is not horrible, but would give some benefit to staying alive.  Besides, it would give you a chance for a bath room break, or at least time to grab another beer.

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[Nexus]

Ok seriously....

Perhaps, limiting each player to 10 of each aircraft type per 24 hour period.

Personally, if I die more than 4 times per day... I'm having a bad day - time to log.

But really, does HTC have the time and inclination to implement something like this?

Who really cares about the kamakazis?

Nexus

[Dead Man Flying]

Any change that forces players to fly a particular way, be it conservatively or liberally, is a recipe for losing customers.  It's unfortunate that kamikazi bombers and reckless pilots without a shred of self-preservation annoy some of you guys.  I'm sure that K/D-obsessed, overly-conservative cherry pickers annoy those reckless pilots as well.

Just so long as we maintain that equilibrium, everything's great.

-- Todd/DMF

[Major Tom]

If you kill em before they start in on the bomb run, then there ain't no such thing as a kamikaze buff.

[stefano]

Just returning to base should give you a BIG bonus. Let the rest as it is.

LUPO
1° Gruppo Caccia
"Asso di Bastoni"

[Phantom121]

Not really worried about kamakaze (heck that is real anyway), check my score - K/D about .4 so I ain't careful (I thought getting killed was how you rearmed or refueled), but a small penalty for death is something thats makes sense.

[AG Sachsenberg]

Sorry start putting a time limit on when I can fly next I am gone.  I pay to fly not sit in the hanger watching others take off.  Taking off from a rear base?  Who thought up this one?  Jesus you guys are becoming perk nutso.  I don't care if I can fly a tempest or a 152 or a Chog.  Limiting planes to me means limiting fun.  And right now the fun is running very thin.

[snafu]

Hi All,
 I come down with Phantom121 on this. I agree death should be penalised (and I die a lot). But I don't think losing perk points (Just means the gap between the Aces and the rest gets bigger) or the limiting of being able to use the same plane after a death a good idea. (I have died in more goons than I care to remember most of which would not have happened if others had done there job on the field correctly in the first place). I think say a 2 minute delay before launching is possible in the event of a death & 1 min in the event of a ditch is the best way to go.

JMO

TTFN
snafu

[Maverick]

I think the death delay is a crock. Try to think back when you first started playing this game. If you had to wait 2 minutes for every death you would spend MOST of your game time waiting to be "reborn". Now how much would you be willing to pay to sit in from of a dark monitor for the majority of your game time????? That is exactly what you are asking (or demanding) every new prospective AH customer to do.

Think also to having your bases reduced to a few by the the other countrys players so that you are constantly being gang banged. Hell, ANYONE could vulch you with plenty of alt knowing you have to wait 2 minutes to respawn. Imagine trying to keep a base capture from being successful if you had to wait. Think this through a bit guys and I think you can see this is not a viable solution.

Mav

[hitech]

If living is the primary goal, why fight?

HiTech

[Maverick]

If you live, you get to fight more. Dead folks don't accomplish much. Additionally, survival is the PRIMARY goal of every soldier in combat. The fact that it isn't always achievable is irrelevant.

Mav  

Make the other poor SOB die for his country.
(paraphrased from Gen. Patton's speech)

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[AG Sachsenberg]

 

Originally posted by Maverick:
If you live, you get to fight more. Dead folks don't accomplish much. Additionally, survival is the PRIMARY goal of every soldier in combat. The fact that it isn't always achievable is irrelevant.

Mav    

Make the other poor SOB die for his country.
(paraphrased from Gen. Patton's speech)

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Its a game i pay to fly not sit and wonder when my next sortie might be.  Sometimes i wonder what these people are smoking that come up with these ideas.  

MENTOR:  Ok lets sit here, yeah we might take off from this back base in a minute or two.

NewBIE:  Hell yeah this is so cool sitting here anticipating when we might take off next from this rear base 150 miles from the real action in a different plane that isn't as easy to learn but who cares.

MENTOR:  you are so right there hahaha.

NEWBIE:  what was the best was getting bounced by those 6 51's I didnt even know they were there 45 minutes into this flight.

MENTOR:  yeah caught me napping as well was outside BBQing the burgers.

NEWBIE:  This just rocks, jesus!!!! where the hell did those Dora's come from?  

MENTOR:  Huh whats that?  Oh while you were out to the store some FW's snuck up on us I sent you a message to drop alt and bug out of there.  Guess you missed it huh?

NEWBIE:  Sure did well I'll be flying in 2 minutes and I'll meet you at the front lines.

MENTOR: "whispers to self" Fat chance in hell"

[Maverick]

 

Originally posted by AG Sachsenberg:
Its a game i pay to fly not sit and wonder when my next sortie might be.  Sometimes i wonder what these people are smoking that come up with these ideas.  

MENTOR:  Ok lets sit here, yeah we might take off from this back base in a minute or two.

NewBIE:  Hell yeah this is so cool sitting here anticipating when we might take off next from this rear base 150 miles from the real action in a different plane that isn't as easy to learn but who cares.

MENTOR:  you are so right there hahaha.

NEWBIE:  what was the best was getting bounced by those 6 51's I didnt even know they were there 45 minutes into this flight.

MENTOR:  yeah caught me napping as well was outside BBQing the burgers.

NEWBIE:  This just rocks, jesus!!!! where the hell did those Dora's come from?  

MENTOR:  Huh whats that?  Oh while you were out to the store some FW's snuck up on us I sent you a message to drop alt and bug out of there.  Guess you missed it huh?

NEWBIE:  Sure did well I'll be flying in 2 minutes and I'll meet you at the front lines.

MENTOR: "whispers to self" Fat chance in hell"

Ag Sach,

Just in case you missed it. This is what I think of the "death time limit" theory. The post you quoted was a  response to HT.

I think the death delay is a crock. Try to think back when you first started playing this game. If you had to wait 2 minutes for every death you would spend MOST of your game time waiting to be "reborn". Now how much would you be willing to pay to sit in from of a dark monitor for the majority of your game time????? That is exactly what you are asking (or demanding) every new prospective AH customer to do.
Think also to having your bases reduced to a few by the the other countrys players so that you are constantly being gang banged. Hell, ANYONE could vulch you with plenty of alt knowing you have to wait 2 minutes to respawn. Imagine trying to keep a base capture from being successful if you had to wait. Think this through a bit guys and I think you can see this is not a viable solution.

Mav

A game "feature" that MAKES you sit staring at a dark screen (or "penalty box) waiting to be able to play again is simply STUPID.


Mav


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[Phantom121]

Hey I didn't say change base or plane , just a short delay. One or two minutes.  Takes longer than that to land rearm on pad and launch again. Give you a chance to check the map and see if your efforts could be better utilized somewhere else. Just a chance to catch your breath.  It would slow down the respawn at a base being captured.  I mean this ain't a death sentence - chill out. Hell it was just a thought.

to HiTech:

Having been a Marine for 10 years and two combat tours in Viet Nam, I can promise you the real life goal of most warriors is to survive.  My Drill Instructor said "The Marine Corps does not want you to die for your country.  We want you to make the enemy die for his country!"

[Karnak]

Phantom121,

This isn't a war, its a game.  A game has to be fun.  Staring at a blank screen waiting for my turn in the penalty box to be over is not fun.  If it isn't fun it isn't serving the purpose that I am paying money for.  If it isn't serving the purpose that I am paying money for I will stop paying money for it.

I am not alone.

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