That's exactly what I am talking about, that's stallfighting in the pure sense of it.
That may be what you are talking about but as I previously explained, you are stall fighting when ever you are riding the edge of the envelope close to the stall, there is no "pure sense of it" you either are or you aren't. You seem to be trying to confine the term to an extreme point on what is a fairly wide region of the envelope. That could be why there is so many crossed wires in this thread.
Fighting at or near the corner speed is angles fighting because you still have the option, however imprudent, to convert E to angles and back again, even if it means getting below your corner speed.
Nope, fighting at or near corner speed could just as easily be angles or energy fighting, it has little to do with what speed you are at, however the decision to do one or the other would depend on a lot of factors including relative speed.
In my opinion, if you call any fight where at some point you're at or near stall speed or ideal corner speed a stallfight, you're practically involving absolutely anything other than flying straight and level or a pure high-speed pass.
Nope, and firstly the actual speed is irrelevant, and the quote above sounds as though you think that if you aren't on the edge of the stall, and thus stall fighting, then you must be "flying straight and level or a pure high-speed pass" but you are missing the huge region of the envelope in between. For instance, in a particular aircraft it may be that at 195mph it stalls at 5g, if you are flying close to 5g at that speed you are stall fighting, if you level off and fly at 1g you are flying straight and level, but what happens if you are at 195mph and fly at only 4g? You aren't stall fighting, and you aren't flying straight and level, there is a large region of the envelope in between you can't simply ignore it.
To put it another way a Pony's ideal corner speed is about ~275-300? You're telling my if I turn it to shoot at a plane at or below that speed I am stallfighting? 150 mph above stall speed? If that's the case I am ALWAYS stallfighting...
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Ok, I can see two further misunderstandings in that quote. The last time I checked the corner velocity of the P-51D, clean, with 25% fuel at sea level was 256mph, now if you turn your aircraft to shoot at another, and if you are "at or below that speed" makes no difference to whether you are stall fighting or not. If you are below corner speed, you do have the option to stall fight, if you are above corner speed you don't. Whether you are stall fighting or not at that point depends on how much G you pull. If you are at corner speed and you pull close to 6g you will be stall fighting, but you could be at that same speed and choose to pull less than 6g, and you wouldn't be stall fighting.
The second misunderstanding is the fact that you seem to refer to the corner velocity as being above stall speed, "150 mph above stall speed?" it isn't, corner velocity is also at the stall speed, the 6g stall speed. It is possible to stall the aircraft at all speeds between corner velocity all the way down, that doesn't mean that if you are flying at those speeds you are automatically stall fighting, you are only stall fighting if you pull enough G to get close to the stall (the edge of the envelope) at that speed. What ever speed you are at, if you pull less G than that required to reach the edge of the envelope, you are not stall fighting.
Hope that helps.
Badboy
