No more "Under God" in our pocket change?

[SkyRock]

Oh okay.

But still, would you like to see it gone? I just find it very odd that the minority who want it gone are beating the majority who either have no problem with it or want it to stay.

I want the pledge as it was written, anything wrong with that?

[Hangtime]

henh?

It's chump change... literally. Who cares?

...surely, the ploy of distracting the masses from their concerns regarding a war, infringement of personal liberties and the stability of the nations banks, foreclosures, unemployment, the economy and an election by starting a heated debate about shiny coins and their inscriptions won't work....

*cough*

<sound of crickets>

... never mind.

Hang

[Hap]

Someone please answer this question.  Where is this phrase "separation of church and state" in our Constitution?  Have read it several times and have not seen it.

Oh, that's right.  It ISN'T!!!! It was from a letter that Jefferson wrote to the Danbury Baptists.

What the Danbury Baptists wrote:
Jefferson's reply:

Amazing how our courts are starting to take things out of context and change the laws using misguided judgement.  I see nowhere that government can make a law taking a young person's right to pray in school or force a judge to take down the Ten Commandments in his courtroom.    What is being inforced now is prohibiting ones "free exercise" of what they belive.  We are given freedom of religion.  Not freedom from religion.

Yup.  The phrase appears in a letter written by TJ.  That's it.  It's no more constitutional than O'Club postings.

[Toad]

Interesting how some take Jefferson's Danbury letter as Constitutional law but totally ignored a lot of other stuff he wrote like

‘‘Laws that forbid the carrying of arms... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.’’

— Jefferson's "Commonplace Book," 1774-1776, quoting from On Crimes and Punishment, by criminologist Cesare Beccaria, 1764

[lazs2]

hang.. problem is.. there is plenty of government to go around..  we get a new department every day and no detail in your life is so insignificant that they can't find a real need to regulate it.

EPA will eventually be in every aspect of your life for instance and cost you.. in fees/taxes about $400 a month.. that would be the environmental taxes and fees and the stuff heaped onto your water, garbage and sewer bill and even your power bill.. not  counting their air quality branch that is making diesel cost about a buck a gallon more at the pumps..  and the fees for your car.

I am telling you right now..  as I have for the last few years.. the hippies that run the EPA will end up costing you more than the IRS costs you in real dollars.    It won't take more than 10 years at this rate.

at some point.. people might notice tho and reign em in..   it will take a lot tho.

lazs

[zarkov]

By popular definition "God" is the Judeo-Christian god NOT "Allah" NOT "Buddha" and NOT any of the many Hindu, Norse, ancient Greek, Roman or Pagan gods. It is also by definition most definitely NOT a substitute for agnostic or atheist traditions.

Hmmm...it depends.  Given that Arabic speaking Christians and Jews refer to their God (the Judeo-Christian God) as "Allah", how does this fit into things?