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Offline waystin2

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Re: Running Commentary
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2008, 10:31:24 AM »
I love to shout out hellos and good jobs with the best of them, but some fellows have run-on mouths letting you know their every thought on the action occurring.  It is not necessary or enjoyed by others.  Is it possible that they have no control over what normal folks would consider "inner dialogue"?  Example-Austin Powers International Man of Mystery when he was first unfrozen.
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Re: Running Commentary
« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2008, 10:39:52 AM »
I find I get check 6'd right when the bullet enters my canopy.   :(
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Re: Running Commentary
« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2008, 10:42:03 AM »
My favorite,

Chicken Head - "Taking off in a Mustang, SE runway with 100% fuel. Why we flashing are there GV's!?!?! Someone talk to me, do read me, i repeat do you read me! (8 mins of in flight checks proceed) OK guys boogies inbound I'm diving on the lead, It's a niki. I'll need some one to cover my six! Almost got him, he broke he broke! Climbing 4k, 5k, 6k, 7k, 8k, WTF!!!!!!!!! WhERE ARE YOU GUYS, WHY DIDN'T ANYONE GIVE A CHECK 6!!!!!!!!!"

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Re: Running Commentary
« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2008, 11:42:03 AM »
Would be nice if gvs defaulted to their own range channel, & had to key in on standard range with a different key.

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Re: Running Commentary
« Reply #19 on: July 24, 2008, 12:04:16 PM »
Maybe they should limit the vox timeout to something like 3 seconds on range channel? Anyone know what is set at currently?
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Re: Running Commentary
« Reply #20 on: July 24, 2008, 12:04:35 PM »
Suggestion to all those aspiring sportscasters: Leave the "play by play" to the professionals. :lol
It is annoying to hear a running account of how a Tempest is on the 6 of your LA and closing (for example).

A good rule of thumb (most of you guys already know this, but it is aimed for those that don't) limit range chatter to reporting ground/air targets and calling out "cons". Please  include their altitude and direction if you want anybody to help. A detailed account of you trying to land is a 1st class ticket to Squelchville. :aok

the three W's works well

Who you are
What you want(or need)
Where you are(location on map, PLUS alt)

 if calling out buffs, same thing
What they are
Where they are(location, and alt)
Direction they're headed

 if warning someone of a bogie on their six.....

What it is
Where it is

 when on the radio, we should all try to get out as much info as possible in as little words as possible. i do this all the time flying(R/L) as i'm sure a few of you also do.
 if i'm having a "normal conversation with another pilot, it stops as soon as either of us engages in combat..or when we enter a combat area, go "sterile cockpit". during that time, there is no talk on the radio except for the business at hand.

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Re: Running Commentary
« Reply #21 on: July 24, 2008, 12:05:35 PM »
Maybe they should limit the vox timeout to something like 3 seconds on range channel? Anyone know what is set at currently?

4 seconds
Of course that doesn't prevent someone from re-keying their mic after each sentence so we are assured to not miss any of their spewage.  :mad:
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Re: Running Commentary
« Reply #22 on: July 24, 2008, 12:06:59 PM »
Would be nice if gvs defaulted to their own range channel, & had to key in on standard range with a different key.

dam good idea :aok
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Re: Running Commentary
« Reply #23 on: July 24, 2008, 12:52:18 PM »
Some time you just have to say: QUIET PLEASE!!! :t
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Re: Running Commentary
« Reply #24 on: July 24, 2008, 01:02:02 PM »
There could be a warning like the "do not move your controls so rapidly" message.

If you use range vox, say, 5 times in 30 seconds as an example, the status message would be "Please be mindful of spamming the vox channels with unneccessary chatter".
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Re: Running Commentary
« Reply #25 on: July 24, 2008, 01:35:20 PM »
I see we have at least one training corps member in this thread. May I suggest instead of implementing innovative yet draconian squelching methods we first entertain the possibility of a Training site writeup and curriculum for voice transmission protocol for new players. As some have already mentioned, most newer players don't even know how to properly report the position, heading and altitude of inbound bandits. They really have no idea what is important information or not. Because of this they tend to be long-winded and any useful information they may have is lost in a sea of superfluous if well-meaning banter.

Our vox system on range is limited by the fact that only one person can talk at a time. The voice communications should be limited to combat related information, particularly of an urgent nature. Anything other than battle speak should be typed not spoken. I have been unable to properly communicate with someone in a fight before because of 'jabberwockeys' clogging the channel. It makes me sad when someone I could have helped dies needlessly as a result.  :cry
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Re: Running Commentary
« Reply #26 on: July 24, 2008, 02:19:17 PM »
I see we have at least one training corps member in this thread. May I suggest instead of implementing innovative yet draconian squelching methods we first entertain the possibility of a Training site writeup and curriculum for voice transmission protocol for new players. As some have already mentioned, most newer players don't even know how to properly report the position, heading and altitude of inbound bandits. They really have no idea what is important information or not. Because of this they tend to be long-winded and any useful information they may have is lost in a sea of superfluous if well-meaning banter.

Our vox system on range is limited by the fact that only one person can talk at a time. The voice communications should be limited to combat related information, particularly of an urgent nature. Anything other than battle speak should be typed not spoken. I have been unable to properly communicate with someone in a fight before because of 'jabberwockeys' clogging the channel. It makes me sad when someone I could have helped dies needlessly as a result.  :cry

Agreed... good points all! :aok
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Re: Running Commentary
« Reply #27 on: July 24, 2008, 05:27:23 PM »
Would be nice if gvs defaulted to their own range channel, & had to key in on standard range with a different key.

Exactly! Thank you.
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Re: Running Commentary
« Reply #28 on: July 24, 2008, 05:52:02 PM »
Would be nice if gvs defaulted to their own range channel, & had to key in on standard range with a different key.

I don't know Murdr, I have mixed feelings on this one. I have had my hide saved from a good waxing on many occasions by overhearing GV guys reporting an Ostwind at or near the runways as I was rtb'ing on the deck with a pouch full of pelts...
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Re: Running Commentary
« Reply #29 on: July 24, 2008, 07:12:44 PM »
I have encountered pleanty of areas where ground chatter effectively blocked the use of range for tactical air coms.  Not for just a few annoying minutes, but constantly for the duration of that ground battle.  Note, I didn't say "don't let them use range", I said "Would be nice if gvs defaulted to their own range channel, & had to key in on standard range with a different key." 


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RADIO PROCEDURE and ETIQUETTE
With the advent of AH Voice, radio procedure and etiquette need to be thought about. This is especially true on the Range Channel, where there are potentially lots of players whose only common denominator is being within 6k of each other. While we can't expect a military type radio procedure, some common courtesy and common sense will go a long way in keeping the range channel useful.

First, keep your transmissions short and to the point. AH keeps your transmissions on the range channel fairly short. You need to keep them to the point (game focus). If you are going to discuss last night's ball game with someone, tune to a channel and do it. Don't tie up the range channel.

Second, make sure you target your audience. While "High pony north" is probably useful to everybody around you, "Watch the F6 on your 6" is only useful to the one person you're talking to. Put their ID in at the beginning. "Hammer, watch the F6 on your 6".

Finally (for now at least), remember that there are all kinds of people playing this game. Keep the language civil, the politics out, etc. There's no telling who is listening on the other end.