Picking: Definition

[Anaxogoras]

There is absolutely no good tactical reason to be the 4th guy dogpiling someone...  None.

There is no good reason to be the 3rd guy in.

Almost forgot to mention one of my few forays into the MW arena:  I was accused of picking simply because I had more altitude than the other guy, even though we were alone!

[Guppy35]

It's the nature of the MA and it isn't going to change dramatically.

That being said, I have two versions I dislike.

1-I'm locked in a nice fight with a badun and he's working his way towards a kill and one of his team mates comes in and blasts me.

2-I'm locked in nice fight with a badun and I'm working my way towards a kill and one of my team mates comes in and blasts him.

I get it when a squaddie comes in and saves me or the badun's squaddie comes in and saves him.  But when either the guy fighting me or myself has the edge and one of our team mates swoops in and steals our work, just doesn't need to happen.

Talk about discouraging.

[Chalenge]

A squaddie is tangling down low with two cons and they have a lot of E. Im rtb after dropping ord at two nearby bases. There are  a lot of bish 'squeekers' there too but they dont see my squaddie...yet. My squaddie asks for a hand on range so I drop in from about 5k (I was expecting to land soon). I see an La7 and a Niki. The sqeekers hear the call to and head over. One of them is saying something like 'I dont ever pick because its just not right.' My squaddie stays down low but the two cons zoom to a little more than 3k for the Niki and 5k for the La7 thinking no one has their energy. The La7 doesnt even see me because he is looking at the squeeker that just said he would never pick. I start up to him and when he sees me he rolls completely inverted and starts down. I shoot him in the head and he explodes just as the squeeker shoots hits me and loses his rudder. The Niki blows his pass on the squeeker and also rolls out in front of me and also gets hit in the head is wounded and has half his wing missing. The squeeker rams him trying to get a shot. Im laughing and slipping in to land. 

[SD67]

I love a good pick, winter seems like the best time. Why just a few hours ago I got one the size of my fingernail! I was really surprised it fit through my nostril

[FALCONWING]

Mmm, I'm not a guy who feels the need to justify my methods but thanks for playing. I have fun.  I prefer to get along but I understand a few turds like you will float up in the bowl now and then.  No doubt you get all your kills 1v1 or worse and you are always low, far away from your base or help.  WTG, you're a much better stick than I. Like I said,   I have fun.  

The only point I got is that you felt a compulsion to insult me and couldn't control yourself.

Oh forgive me mighty one...with your response to 1boner  of:

"I do this almost every night. I fly for the team with the lowest numbers and I try to find a friendly base that is getting swarmed. I then fly alone to the source of the horde(typically the closest enemy base) and rain on their vulch parade. You'd be surprised how one guy can clog up the vulch conveyer by loitering over the horde's home hive.

I'm a base baiter, big time.  Hate me. "

I had no idea that this was what one typed when they were "trying to get along"?  From seeing you rant on ch 200 about being ho'd/rammed, I assumed you were actually a "not get along" kind of guy.  I stand corrected sir!!!

<S> to a "get along" kind of guy from a "looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck" kind of guy
 
 

[Steve]

It's the nature of the MA and it isn't going to change dramatically.

That being said, I have two versions I dislike.


2-I'm locked in nice fight with a badun and I'm working my way towards a kill and one of his team mates comes in and blasts me.

I did that to AKAK a few minutes ago... he was working this guy over, after already killing one.  AKAK was on top of a furball with my teammate  1v1.  The furball was quite low but I knew the 38 would kill the guy and then be alone on top of the fight.  So I told my teammate that the 38 has to go.

It was kind of a tweener: he was 1v1, but was slightly over a deck furball.  I saw him already get one kill and knew he was going to kill the other guy.  The thought of leaving an obviously dangerous opponent on top didn't seem so good so  I shot him off my teammate. AKAK wasn't very high, just to be clear, but he was a smidge higher than the rest of the fight. I felt a twinge of guilt..but it seemed, and seems, like it was the prudent thing to do.  AKAK is a good stick and always a gentleman in the game.... sorry dude.. sort of.

[FALCONWING]

Try not to take it to personally Steve, he tries to do it to everyone...Every BBS needs a poo slinging "thread stalker" I suppose...

Ahhh...when you get owned by prose, i guess this is the next line of attack.  

No Zazen, I just can't bear the arrogant textbooks you type on the BBS about gameplay...especially coming from someone who plays the game in a very limited way.  Of course you admitting in the "knight" thread that you use dual accounts...one only for Bish...was a bonus and I can understand why you feel frustrated now...

Sorry to frustrate you...

[Steve]

Oh forgive me mighty one...with your response to 1boner  of:

"I do this almost every night. I fly for the team with the lowest numbers and I try to find a friendly base that is getting swarmed. I then fly alone to the source of the horde(typically the closest enemy base) and rain on their vulch parade. You'd be surprised how one guy can clog up the vulch conveyer by loitering over the horde's home hive.

I'm a base baiter, big time.  Hate me. "

I had no idea that this was what one typed when they were "trying to get along"?  From seeing you rant on ch 200 about being ho'd/rammed, I assumed you were actually a "not get along" kind of guy.  I stand corrected sir!!!

<S> to a "get along" kind of guy from a "looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck" kind of guy
 
 

You are looking for a fight or just enjoy spewing insults.. if it's the former, I'm not interested.  If it's the latter, spew on but I'm still not interested. Have a nice weekend.

Steve

[Delirium]

I wish HTC would introduce ENY for a certain area of the map, it would reduce alot of the hording.

For example, if you take off from a base that has 20 more guys than the enemy does in a certain area, your eny is elevated beyond what it is from the norm. Likewise, if you take off into a horde of red your eny on login is reduced or eliminated.

You can always take off 4-5 sectors away to avoid eny issues, but it is still a better solution than what we have now.
 

[Zazen13]

Ahhh...when you get owned by prose, i guess this is the next line of attack.  

No Zazen, I just can't bear the arrogant textbooks you type on the BBS about gameplay...especially coming from someone who plays the game in a very limited way.  Of course you admitting in the "knight" thread that you use dual accounts...one only for Bish...was a bonus and I can understand why you feel frustrated now...

Sorry to frustrate you...

No offense, but you're dellusional if you think you owned anyone with your "prose" because you fling poo and make snide, usually off-topic remarks. You also don't in any way, shape or form frustrate me, you do however amuse, bemuse and successfully elicit my pity, but not frustrate. Also, if you don't like reading what I write why in the hell would you impose that self-inflicted pain by reading it? It's like people pissing and moaning about 200, but are glued to it and make it a point to stick their nose in every conversation...

[FALCONWING]

No offense, but you're dellusional if you think you owned anyone with your "prose" because you fling poo and make snide, usually off-topic remarks. You also don't in any way, shape or form frustrate me, you do however amuse, bemuse and successfully elicit my pity, but not frustrate. Also, if you don't like reading what I write why in the hell would you impose that self-inflicted pain by reading it? It's like people pissing and moaning about 200, but are glued to it and make it a point to stick their nose in every conversation...

You write like Jesse Jackson....amuse, bemuse....more like confuse....TOO many words for TOO little content..

No offense Rev Jackson...(on second thought if the Rev is reading this..then offense!)

Please feel free to link me to me "slinging poo"?  I think this is your way of saying "debate with you using facts".  For someone who enjoys the witty reparte, you break down fairly easily under very little fire. 

Now a few thoughts for you:

1.  I left you in the "knight" thread where you still have yet to prove who the "bop score monkeys" are...
2.  I ignored you in this thread until you jumped in on me (unless your Steve's life partner and I violated your non-marriage pact in a way that required your defense)
3.  I responded the way I did with Steve because 1Boner is my squaddie who was trying to participate in a thread about defining picking AND Steve chose to suggest that 1boner may be a whiny vulcher/hoarder type that Steve enjoys making him "hate him". 

AND techinically since Steve (or Steven as you call him) responded by likining me to a non-flushable turd...then HE is the one closest to "flinging poo."  A zoological reference that is not exactly accurate..but feel free to continue to use it in the common context
 

[SD67]

Man, I gotta work on my material, I thought I get one or two with that one

[Zazen13]

You write like Jesse Jackson....amuse, bemuse....more like confuse....TOO many words for TOO little content..

No offense Rev Jackson...(on second thought if the Rev is reading this..then offense!)

Please feel free to link me to me "slinging poo"?  I think this is your way of saying "debate with you using facts".  For someone who enjoys the witty reparte, you break down fairly easily under very little fire. 

Now a few thoughts for you:

1.  I left you in the "knight" thread where you still have yet to prove who the "bop score monkeys" are...
2.  I ignored you in this thread until you jumped in on me (unless your Steve's life partner and I violated your non-marriage pact in a way that required your defense)
3.  I responded the way I did with Steve because 1Boner is my squaddie who was trying to participate in a thread about defining picking AND Steve chose to suggest that 1boner may be a whiny vulcher/hoarder type that Steve enjoys making him "hate him". 

AND techinically since Steve (or Steven as you call him) responded by likining me to a non-flushable turd...then HE is the one closest to "flinging poo."  A zoological reference that is not exactly accurate..but feel free to continue to use it in the common context
 

These last few post in this thread proves my point. Whether you personally like my writing style or not I make every possible effort to post and reply in such a way as to encourage debate and discourse on the topic at hand. When you post or reply it's almost invariably to simply fling poo at people you have a personal issue with for whatever reason. When you post in this fashion you force people to either acquiesce to your slanderous/libellous and grossly inaccurate remarks or defend themselves. This has a toilet bowl effect on every thread you touch, taking focus away from the topic others were enjoying and turning it into a pursefight rife with personal attacks that are both inappropriate and off-topic...

[FALCONWING]

These last few post in this thread proves my point. Whether you personally like my writing style or not I make every possible effort to post and reply in such a way as to encourage debate and discourse on the topic at hand. When you post or reply it's almost invariably to simply fling poo at people you have a personal issue with for whatever reason. When you post in this fashion you force people to either acquiesce to your slanderous/libellous and grossly inaccurate remarks or defend themselves. This has a toilet bowl effect on every thread you touch, taking focus away from the topic others were enjoying and turning it into a pursefight rife with personal attacks that are both inappropriate and off-topic...

Since you and I know nothing about each other save the bbs and the game...I am unclear how any attacks can be personal? 

You post sweeping generalizations that apply labels to ENTIRE countries and critique styles of gameplay.  If me stating that is "personal" to you then you have a remarkably thin skin. If me pointing out that you choose to participate in only a small portion of the game and yet seem to consider yourself an expert in all aspects is personal..then perhaps posting your editorials is not a good way for you to go...

And if me pointing out that you make statements that have no iota of truth behind them seems personal...then perhaps you should be cautious in what you choose to post.  ("BoP scorepotatos, poo slinging, etc) 

 

[WMLute]

Since you and I know nothing about each other save the bbs and the game...I am unclear how any attacks can be personal? 

You post sweeping generalizations that apply labels to ENTIRE countries and critique styles of gameplay.  If me stating that is "personal" to you then you have a remarkably thin skin. If me pointing out that you choose to participate in only a small portion of the game and yet seem to consider yourself an expert in all aspects is personal..then perhaps posting your editorials is not a good way for you to go...

And if me pointing out that you make statements that have no iota of truth behind them seems personal...then perhaps you should be cautious in what you choose to post.  ("BoP scorepotatos, poo slinging, etc) 

 

I'm just curious why I keep seeing falcnwing in so many threads about how Bish tend to hoard undefended bases.

(disclaimer: Not all Bish do, sure there are plenty of Bish that don't, all side pretty much the "same", your $14.95, blah, blah, blah)

I have seen 2-3 threads the past month or two that Falc ended up picking fights with people on this topic.  I know it's not "always" the case, but it is becoming the norm as opposed to the exception.  (the noe massive hoard base take that is)

The BOP's have historically done this.  Have for years.  Many other Bish squads do this (Jokers, Rolling, etc, etc) and I'm not singling out the BOPs in particular.  (you can also find this behavior on Rooks and Knits, but it seems more prevelant on the Bish side)

Yes you have a much higher chance or takin' the field if you go in a huge hoard NOE and toolshed a field that is not defended.
Yes if all you care about is that base capture and "Winning the War" this is the tactic for you.
Yes you do end up being cannon fodder generally when you actually have to fight for the field and the nme resists.
Yes they tend to slink away to the next undefended field when they nme starts fighting back.

None of the above is speculation, or conjecture.  I've seen 'em do it for years and years now.  "Bish move on to another field if you defend" has pretty much become like "Rooks fly at high alt".  They just "do".  It is just how it is.  (see above disclaimer)

Which makes me wanna ask Falc.
1. are you ashamed about it so that is why you pick so many BBS fights on the subject?
2. just why ARE you defending toolshedding?

I love a good base take.  I can often be found rallying help for a base capture.  I just tend to preferr if the bad guys try to resist.  When we are otw a field to try and capture it and I see a huge dar bar up to resist I almost always go "Woot!".  A common thing to see me type on Country is "sector x,x just got 'FUN'"  For me, it's more satisfying if they fight back.  Kinda like "earning" it if you will.  I love even odds, or even slightly out numbered, and you STILL take it because ya' out fought 'em.

But I digress...

So just why ARE you picking fights on this subject Falc?