The United States is now winning the war that two years ago seemed lost.

[Hangtime]

Oh I agree. The problem with that is if we pull them all out we risk losing far more if we have to go back. I still feel that region is going to be a sight of a major war in the next 10 years. Still, back on topic, its the job of the Iraqis to police. Not our troops, or our allies. Allowing the Iraqi Police forces to disintegrate after our invasion was pretty stupid.

Best of all the Iraqis are best geared towards getting information from prisoners that will save our boys and girls from getting blown to bits in future attacks. Let em use their own methods, its not our business.

Dont expect a complete pull out of American troops from Iraq however. There will be a pull back, and the forces left there will be smaller. The presence of Yank combat troops in the region was part of the reason for attacking Iraq.

Nope.. I don't expect a complete pull-out. Since the Iraqi Air Force has 2 helicopters, a couple of Cessna's and a C-130, I very much doubt the Iraqi Military to aquire the means to defend it's nations sovereignty from any serious attempt by a hostile neighbor state to defend Iraq effectively for a decade or two, at least.

I'd expect American Troops, in a trip-wire role similar to the role we play in Korea and providing full Air Support, Artillery and Armor to assist the Iraqi military in the role of National Defense. That does not mean US Troops kicking down doors and playing street cop in Iraqi cities. 

[Gunthr]

US Troops, disarming Americans?

Perish the thought. Aside from it being a violation of US Code, Title 10, The Posse Comitatus Act of 1807 precludes it.

not US Troops.  Gubmint.  They already regulate the items under discussion, and they already can and do confiscate these items if you are not authorised to have them.

[angelsandair]

Kinda off topic but, I wonder how many black men and women have been killed in the Ghettos since the Iraq war started? I'm assuming alot more than American soldiers were killed. But hey, I never see this on MSNBC or CNN, not on ANY news station to be exact. Until the insurgents actually start fighting en-masse, they shouldn't be saying the war is "lost"

[BTW]

April 20, 2007

Harry Reid...

WASHINGTON - Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Thursday the war in Iraq is "lost," triggering an angry backlash by Republicans, who said the top Democrat had turned his back on the troops. The bleak assessment - the most pointed yet from Reid - came as the House voted 215-199 to uphold legislation ordering troops out of Iraq next year.

Harry Reid is a disgrace to the United States, and people should boycott Las Vegas until Nevada removes him as US Senator.

[Motherland]

Until the insurgents actually start fighting en-masse,

Why the hell would they do that? That would just be flat out retarded. Guerilla warfare is MUCH, MUCH more effective.

Kinda off topic but, I wonder how many black men and women have been killed in the Ghettos since the Iraq war started?

I'm kind of curious as to why you made this specific to blacks... there are white people who live in the ghetto ya'know.

[angelsandair]

Why the hell would they do that? That would just be flat out retarded. Guerilla warfare is MUCH, MUCH more effective.I'm kind of curious as to why you made this specific to blacks... there are white people who live in the ghetto ya'know.

2 things.

1. They arent strong enough to even shoot at our troops from buildings, they gotta plant bombs that just kill civilians and in turn, the civilians get more pissed off.

2. ANYONE in the Ghetto for that matter

[sluggish]

Why the hell would they do that? That would just be flat out retarded. Guerilla warfare is MUCH, MUCH more effective.

They are cowards.  The day they feel empowered enough to fight our armed forces face-to-face in the daylight is the day to say the war is lost.

[Hangtime]

They are cowards.  The day they feel empowered enough to fight our armed forces face-to-face in the daylight is the day to say the war is lost.

Propaganda comes in all sizes, shapes, forms.

Would declining to engage a better armed enemy, replete with superior communications, movement, body armor, air support and tanks be 'cowardly' or 'smart'?

Would it not be smarter (more effective) to attack the superior force's logistics, morale, command and control??

Anybody tangoing with a US Army or Marine Corps force in a direct 'combat arms' engagement is doomed to failure.

Learn up on 'asymmetric warfare'.

They have.

[sluggish]

Propaganda comes in all sizes, shapes, forms.

Would declining to engage a better armed enemy, replete with superior communications, movement, body armor, air support and tanks be 'cowardly' or 'smart'?

Would it not be smarter (more effective) to attack the superior force's logistics, morale, command and control??

Anybody tangoing with a US Army or Marine Corps force in a direct 'combat arms' engagement is doomed to failure.

Learn up on 'asymmetric warfare'.

They have.

I think you missed my whole point.  We're on the same side here.

[BTW]

Propaganda comes in all sizes, shapes, forms.

Would declining to engage a better armed enemy, replete with superior communications, movement, body armor, air support and tanks be 'cowardly' or 'smart'?

Would it not be smarter (more effective) to attack the superior force's logistics, morale, command and control??

Anybody tangoing with a US Army or Marine Corps force in a direct 'combat arms' engagement is doomed to failure.

Learn up on 'asymmetric warfare'.

They have.

Fat lot of good it did them eh? They still failed, symmetrically, asymmetrically, completely failed. They LOST. Where the hell is Harry Reid in announcing that?

[Motherland]

They are cowards. 

What is cowardly about using good tactics? It's not a game.

[Dago]

If the democratic congress works fast, they can still surrender to the terrorists before all their hopes are crushed by a possible good outcome in Iraq.

[Ripsnort]

If the democratic congress works fast, they can still surrender to the terrorists before all their hopes are crushed by a possible good outcome in Iraq.

[acfireguy26]

Was there a change in the laws over in Iraq recently, because last I heard Iraq civilians were allowed to have 1 weapon per household, it was either 1 per household or 1 for every adult male(not sure if it included females) in the house.

  When I was there it was one ak47 per house hold. There was no regulation on hand guns or non automatic rifles
other than they could not be carried outside the home.

[Ripsnort]

  When I was there it was one ak47 per house hold. There was no regulation on hand guns or non automatic rifles
other than they could not be carried outside the home.

How long ago were you there? And, I always appreciate first person perspective of those who were there. <S> and thanks for your service.