GV vunerability

[Boxboy]

Or just up a tank and kill the enemy tank,or is that too hard boxboy?

I don't drive tanks much and I detest the ground game, for me it started out as flying game with simulator type qualities, then guys like you came along no talent for learning to fly and the game evolved to what it is today

[Lusche]

I don't drive tanks much and I detest the ground game, for me it started out as flying game with simulator type qualities, then guys like you came along no talent for learning to fly and the game evolved to what it is today

Hmm someone with no talent in killing GVs with the appropriate big gun planes (and thus requesting to make GV's "weaker") is making remarks about other player's lack of skill in planes. Seems odd to me...    

Maybe they could learn to fly while you could learn to fly B25, hurrD, Il2? 

[Boxboy]

Hmm someone with no talent in killing GVs with the appropriate big gun planes (and thus requesting to make GV's "weaker") is making remarks about other player's lack of skill in planes. Seems odd to me...    

Maybe they could learn to fly while you could learn to fly B25, hurrD, Il2? 

yeah yeah Lusch go play with ur marbles I been playing these things longer than you I KNOW you think you OWN AH but you don't and never will, ur just another one of the BBS mob that knows everything

[Lusche]

yeah yeah Lusch go play with ur marbles I been playing these things longer than you I KNOW you think you OWN AH but you don't and never will, ur just another one of the BBS mob that knows everything

What has the length of playing time to do with this?
Your claim about GVs being "immune" to air attack is absurd. Note that I'm not the only "BBS mobster" saying that. Several players pointed out how to kill GV's with the appropriate planes, even without ords

You post seemed simply to follow the Steve Waldren School of thought: "I can't do it, so please change it!" People argue with facts, you bring "marbles" into it. Quite convincing indeed 

[bmwgs]

I don't drive tanks much and I detest the ground game, for me it started out as flying game with simulator type qualities, then guys like you came along no talent for learning to fly and the game evolved to what it is today

I'm a little curious about the above statement you made.  

If you detest the ground game, and all you want to do is fly, then how is the ground game bothering you?  Seems to me the only time you would have a problem with a GV is if you are targeting a base or happen to chase someone over a base.  Of course if all you want to do is fly, there is no need to target a base, and as everyone one knows its pretty much suicide to chase someone low over any base.

So I guess the what really has me curious is if all you want to do is air combat, the GV's should not even be a factor to you...

Just a thought.

Fred

[Boxboy]

Well my friend I have been playing AH since beta, took a break and came back, started out playing RB on the Serria Network, moved to AW during the Genie days, stayed with that till AW came out (originally was going to be called Confirmed Kill).

I took the break when Killer started WWIIOL (what disaster) Oh and my handle through all of that until I came back to AH was BigJim in AW was 4781 or something like that its been a long time.

I have NOT asked for anything that wasn't already IN the game at one time so if you have been around so long I am surprised that you don't remember that, as for upping a buff to kill GV's etc etc I could do that if I were so inclined but like the GV game, buffs run a close second to things I prefer not to do.

I am basically a fiter jock and NOT a tool shedder, not much interested in capture the flag either but it often leads to some good furballs so I will partipate in that.

You are right however in that if I really get to the place where I can't stand it I can always move on to other things (of course if enough of us do that then you mobsters will have to find a new playground)

[thrila]

boxboy, why don't you fly the planes mentioned above, to kill gv's?  The Hurri2d and IL-2 are anything but bombers.  If you are a furballer, why do you want to kill them anyway, just ignore them.

[Dream Child]

I love the ground game. The IL-2 can outright kill any ground vehicle using guns only, and I typically have a better than 10 to 1 kill ratio in my IL-2 against ground vehicles. If it weren't for the WW, it would be even higher.

[evenhaim]

boxboy owns all lusche duhhh

hurri2d is my favorite tank killer, those 40mm hit sprites are very attractive!

[Boxboy]

boxboy, why don't you fly the planes mentioned above, to kill gv's?  The Hurri2d and IL-2 are anything but bombers.  If you are a furballer, why do you want to kill them anyway, just ignore them.

Kinda hard to ignore a wirblewind, or m16, or osti in a low level furball, I actully don't object to not being able to kill a tank with cannon fire, but an OPEN topped vehicle should be vunerable to 20mm, the side of a wirblewind turret were I believe 6mm of non face harden steel, 20mm should punch thru that and kill gunner, so by defacto the vehicle.

[Motherland]

Wirbelwinds, Ostiwinds, and M16's are already insanely easy to kill with cannon fire.

[KG45]

Wirbelwinds, Ostiwinds, and M16's are already insanely easy to kill with cannon fire.

as a player that's pretty much GVs all the time, i can verify that the above statement is true. and add the M8s, M3s, LTV4's and LVT2's. pretty much anything that aint a 'tank'.

[Boxboy]

Wirbelwinds, Ostiwinds, and M16's are already insanely easy to kill with cannon fire.

heheh yep yep insane is the right word alright, I want you show me online one day how great you are at it, 1 v 1 you vs wirblewind without the WW being distracted by anything else.

[stodd]

I don't drive tanks much and I detest the ground game, for me it started out as flying game with simulator type qualities, then guys like you came along no talent for learning to fly and the game evolved to what it is today

Hmmm you defend your idea by trying to make personal attacks on the ones who object to it. First on me,then when lusche comes up with a good point you go after him lol,I could kill you in a tank and I fly just fine too thx. Looks like your trying to pick a fight with bubi for objecting too. 

Oh and and becuase you have flown flight sim's for along time you are automatically right?

[Widewing]

heheh yep yep insane is the right word alright, I want you show me online one day how great you are at it, 1 v 1 you vs wirblewind without the WW being distracted by anything else.

Boxboy, you cannot go head to head with a wirby or osti and expect to escape unscathed. Just like you don't deliberately HO a Bf 110G-2. Take your time, wait for an opening. Knocking out the turret is easy enough with .50s or cannon.

I maintain about a 20/1 kill ratio against wirbies because I attack them on my terms. As to the rest, a 1k bomb will kill any vehicle. Even a well aimed 500 lb bomb will kill a Tiger. I've chased enemy fighters right through a swarm of wirbies and didn't take a single ping. High speed makes tracking impossible, as the turret cannot rotate fast enough. That and the surprise of being so reckless.

My regards,

Widewing