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Offline flatiron1

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teamspeak, roger wilco or ventrillo
« on: July 28, 2008, 09:52:30 AM »
what are the pros/cons of each of these systems?

Thanks for all input.

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Re: teamspeak, roger wilco or ventrillo
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2008, 10:20:33 AM »
Our squad uses ventrilo because it provides the best in terms of voice clarity/quality.

Unfortunately it isnt free to use if your planning on having more than 8 guys using it.  There are many different places you could rent one.  It won't break the bank but just  FYI.

Teamspeak is free but I have never liked it.

Roger wilco we used about 8 years ago I dont know whether that still exists it was pretty much the forerunner of the above 2.

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Re: teamspeak, roger wilco or ventrillo
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2008, 10:25:17 AM »
Never used Roger Wilco... I've used Teamspeak and Ventrillo extensively in my World of Warcraft days though.

Teamspeak:  Pros is that you can set a server up for free on a spare computer if you have spare bandwidth.  The more spare bandwidth you have the more simultaneous users you can host.  Some people think it sounds worse than Ventrillo, but that is mainly because the default settings are for lowest bandwidth and worst quality audio, and most people don't bother to change the defaults.

Ventrillo:  Pro is that audio quality is excellent without a lot of tweaking.  Cons is that if you have bandwidth starved people connecting to the server, the high quality of the connection may leave them unable to do much else.  I think anyone with a 56k modem or better will be fine though.  Another possible con is that I don't believe you can run your own server, you have to rent one for X dollars a month, and choose how many seats you want.

As a user I don't really have a preference for either, they are both equally easy to connect to, and the client software is free for both as well.  As an admin I suspect Ventrillo is easier to manage.  If you're a techy and would rather save money and have spare bandwidth, Team Speak is just fine.  

I've run a Team Speak server for work on a couple of occasions when people needed it.  It was installed on a 1999 era Gateway 2000 laptop, P2-233 with 128meg of ram and running Windows NT 4.0, and worked great.
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Re: teamspeak, roger wilco or ventrillo
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2008, 10:31:00 AM »
boiler if you have any specific settings that make TS sound bearable  please PM me the details.

Every server I have ever connected to sounded poor compared to Vent.  Purely out of interest.
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Re: teamspeak, roger wilco or ventrillo
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2008, 12:41:51 PM »
boiler if you have any specific settings that make TS sound bearable  please PM me the details.

Every server I have ever connected to sounded poor compared to Vent.  Purely out of interest.

Well I'll just post it here instead of PM... at least the part I know.

What you'll want to change is the "codec" being used, on the server.  The clients always use whatever codec the server is sending with.  If everyone connecting has a broadband connection, change it to the best quality codec that they offer, which is "Speex25.9".

Let me see... the Teamspeak web site is running real slow for me but it eventually loaded, here is some better info:  http://www.goteamspeak.com//?page=faq&cat=general&rate=60#what_are_codecs
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Re: teamspeak, roger wilco or ventrillo
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2008, 01:26:19 PM »
I started out using Roger Wilco long long ago and far far away.

Back then it was pretty good stuff, but I think its fallen behind the times.

Our squad has recently tried both Teamspeak and Ventrillo.
Personally teamspeak had more "issues" little glitches, things that added up and ticked you off.

Ventrillo is not as cheap for a large squad to operate, but I've been pleasantly surprised at the quality.
And some of the little touches, like being able to adjust the sound for each user. So that guy that always blows your ears off can be tamed. And the quiet guy that you can never hear can be amped up till you hear every word.

I think Ventrillo is perhaps a bit more user friendly in figuring out how to map bindings, etc.

My favorite is still in many respect the built in Voice in Aces High.
Sound quality may not be perfect, but its not bad. Its easy on the computer and bandwidth.
And I can tell at a glance who is talking to me, which is not so easy with any of the others.



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Re: teamspeak, roger wilco or ventrillo
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2008, 05:48:59 PM »
Used RW in the wayback. Keep it installed for nostalgias sake I guess since it was the first form of non game coms back in the mid 90's when our roots were planted in online flight simming. Its past its prime, but works just the same.

Over at debdenboys, we looked at Ventrillo as we are always looking for something better if its out there. We found that it worked good if it wasnt heavily populated. Some nights we have 20-30 folks on one channel, and Teamspeak simply handles the higher player throughput at the higher quality codecs much better...hands down. Most people who do not like the quality of teamspeak  either are trying to run it off of their home system , and dont have the bandwidth to do any voice proggy justice , or don't know to adjust the codec settings up and how to properly configure it. Best advice I could offer is that if you have a group of people, rent a TS server from someone like clanservers (50 player for 17 bucks a month with unlimited codecs). Most , like Clanservers, have a clanpay option whereas anyone can donate directly to the server fund via Paypal (please ignore most of the baseless urban myths about Paypal as well, I've done literally thousands of dollars without a hitch with it over the years), and the money is directly applied to the server fund. This way you can split the cost among the group.

If your going to run any voice program from your home PC and not rent one, bottom line is you should have at the very least a cable connection. Anything else will give you nothing but grief. Been there , done that.
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Re: teamspeak, roger wilco or ventrillo
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2008, 11:24:30 PM »
People still use Roger Wilco?  When was the last time that code was updated?

TeamSpeak is my preferred voice chat program if there isn't one built into the game.  The servers are fairly easy to setup and configure, there are plenty of codecs to choose from, and the licensing is not as restrictive as Ventrilo.  While I haven't messed with it, the macros appear to have some potential for programming some interesting functions.

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Re: teamspeak, roger wilco or ventrillo
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2008, 02:40:38 PM »
if u want more than 8 slots using ventrilo then use an older version.
ive got server and client programs for version 2.1.4. (200 slots). if any1 wants this pm me with email address and ill send it.
this is not cracked but a legit version b4 they made it 8 slots max.

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Re: teamspeak, roger wilco or ventrillo
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2008, 11:19:11 PM »
our squad uses Vent and for the guys who have it on our squad( not every one has vent for multiple reasons) just split the price of it among the people using it and it will be more the 8 so it should keep the price fairly low
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Re: teamspeak, roger wilco or ventrillo
« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2008, 02:42:59 PM »
Our squadron has used both. I really liked TS running in the background.

When we used ventrillo, even when the settings were adjusted to have push to talk, it still operated on voice-activated, which really sucked for me (three sons, two dogs, me yelling at all of them... I'm sure my squadmates weren't thrilled about that)... at any rate, I ended up deleting the whole durn thing. 

I know the fix on that was to find whatever secondary adjustment needed to be made in addition to setting the correct push to talk key... but I sure didn't have the patience for it.  At least when you set the push to talk button on TS, it actually functioned according to the intended push to talk feature.
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Re: teamspeak, roger wilco or ventrillo
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2008, 05:06:08 PM »
Thanks for the input. We have been trying Teamspeak the past week. Only thing I don't like is you get no visual cue of who is speaking. There is a add on that apparently will fix that but will not work with vista. vista bit again.

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Re: teamspeak, roger wilco or ventrillo
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2008, 06:40:12 PM »
(Cool, flatiron... Txdad & I met & married when we were both stationed there at rucker)
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Re: teamspeak, roger wilco or ventrillo
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2008, 08:38:01 PM »
Good old Mother Rucker. When was that? I was there from 70 to 72.
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Re: teamspeak, roger wilco or ventrillo
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2008, 09:48:37 PM »
He was there 89 - 93. I was there 92 - 93.
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