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Offline Zazen13

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Re: Understanding the Plane/Pilot Dynamic Objectively
« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2008, 08:26:39 PM »
Excellent post.
Leads me to wonder what type of category the players that shoot you hanging in the silk for fun fall into.
Does that also translate to how they treat people on the outside world?

Ty Sir  :salute.

I think we would be making an incredible leap to say someone would necessarily translate their "antisocial" and "unsportsmanlike" activities to the real world. This is, after all, the internet. People with weak moral fiber do not feel contrained by higher morals or societal values in this impersonal online medium. In recent sociological research there has been studies that conclude that casting off the shackles of ethical behavior online makes it easier for an individual to do so in real life. It weakens the control the superego has over the id in Freudian terms. Ultimately this results in pure hedonism, where personally gratifying pleasure seeking becomes the means to its own end, unfettered by moral constraint. If this is true and this can affect the masses, especially young people, before their internal moral compass has fully developed, the possibilities for our future are frightening. Ever watch the movie, "Clockwork Orange"?  :O
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Re: Understanding the Plane/Pilot Dynamic Objectively
« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2008, 08:39:58 PM »
You know Zazen you should gather your thoughts on the game overall and put them on a web site, your always a great read.

Very insightful stuff :salute
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Re: Understanding the Plane/Pilot Dynamic Objectively
« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2008, 08:44:41 PM »
You know Zazen you should gather your thoughts on the game overall and put them on a web site, your always a great read.

Very insightful stuff :salute

Thank-You sir.  :salute

I write first and formost to entertain, then to inform, then as a creative outlet for myself...So, even if you don't agree with me, I want it to be at least entertaining and worth the time it takes to read it.

Some would beg to differ with you though on the quality of my ideas... :huh
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Re: Understanding the Plane/Pilot Dynamic Objectively
« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2008, 08:47:47 PM »
Loved it. (Clockwork Orange)
I think we are in tons of trouble because we see this behavior everyday,sometimes not paying much attention to it. Moral compass has become skewed. Some see their behavior as ok when to others it is completely unacceptable. I try to keep my childrens morals rightly tuned but I am afraid they lose it when they are not around me.
With that said,do we really know what is moral and whats is not? :salute
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Re: Understanding the Plane/Pilot Dynamic Objectively
« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2008, 08:52:40 PM »
Thank-You sir.  :salute

I write first and formost to entertain, then to inform, then as a creative outlet for myself...So, even if you don't agree with me, I want it to be at least entertaining and worth the time it takes to read it.

Some would beg to differ with you though on the quality of my ideas... :huh

Your insight into the game is from your prespective, i don't always agree, but your right more then not, at least i agree more then disagree may be a better way to put it. But you always entertain and offer good info, perhaps spun a little to your own taste but good info non the less.
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Re: Understanding the Plane/Pilot Dynamic Objectively
« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2008, 08:54:27 PM »
Very nice write-up.
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Re: Understanding the Plane/Pilot Dynamic Objectively
« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2008, 09:00:38 PM »
Very good post Zazen, well said.

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Re: Understanding the Plane/Pilot Dynamic Objectively
« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2008, 09:05:12 PM »
With that said,do we really know what is moral and whats is not? :salute

Well, morality is largely developed individually through socialization. Therefore, it is largely reflective of societal values. Therefore, there is no absolute societal morality, as societies' value systems differ widely across the planet. That's where religion, or if you prefer, philosophical belief systems, come in. The function of religion is to place a "higher" moral template upon the societal value system. These combined with some form of legal system of judgement and enforcement combine to create the moral framework individuals are expected to operate within. Religious morality is the more influential moral force historically because it holds dominion over the absolutes of universal, "rights and wrongs" that know no societal bounds. It does this by establishing a cause and effect relationship between your actions in life toward others and your soul's ultimate fate upon death. Legal and societal morality are not absolute, they are generally based upon popular consensus, tyrannical imposition or some combination of the two.
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Re: Understanding the Plane/Pilot Dynamic Objectively
« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2008, 09:15:50 PM »
Probably better you and I chat here and not on Vox. That could get ugly with all the players having to listen to us  :D

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Re: Understanding the Plane/Pilot Dynamic Objectively
« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2008, 09:17:41 PM »
Probably better you and I chat here and not on Vox. That could get ugly with all the players having to listen to us  :D

Yea, it's always best not to get me talking philosophically, you'll have to slap the crap out of me to shut me up... :rock
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Re: Understanding the Plane/Pilot Dynamic Objectively
« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2008, 09:40:17 PM »
Good post.  :aok
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Re: Understanding the Plane/Pilot Dynamic Objectively
« Reply #26 on: July 29, 2008, 09:44:56 PM »
Zazen preach on my bruttha. 
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Re: Understanding the Plane/Pilot Dynamic Objectively
« Reply #27 on: July 29, 2008, 09:48:37 PM »
fun and effectivnes....fun and effectiveness.......I gotta think about this................
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Re: Understanding the Plane/Pilot Dynamic Objectively
« Reply #28 on: July 30, 2008, 01:29:02 AM »
Very good post Zazen, well said.

Ty Sir.  :salute
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Re: Understanding the Plane/Pilot Dynamic Objectively
« Reply #29 on: July 30, 2008, 01:36:56 AM »
That makes a lot of sense :aok


Basically I will fly like crap and shoot poorly forever....at least I know now.

for a while I thought my ineptness was from not trying as hard as I could :cry

now I realize I never had a chance to be the best.....but that's fine, I still have fun :)

and when all is said and done, that's the only reason I'm here.
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