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Offline angelsandair

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LOL, Talk about a real Scam
« on: July 29, 2008, 09:16:38 PM »
Look at this lawsuit.

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"We are satisfied with the judge's decision," Ford spokeswoman Kristen Kinley told Reuters. "We feel that although the case is without merit and we proved that in court, we also believe the settlement is right for our customers." Well duh. Some 800k Ford owners and lessees file a class-action lawsuit against the Blue Oval Boyz for lost value– due to the whole Firestone/Explorer rollover deal– and FoMoCo gives them a discount towards the purchase of a new Ford. We're talking certificates good for $500 off a new Explorer, or $300 off any other Ford, Mercury or Lincoln product. Oh, and the plaintiffs' lawyers get $25m. Hang on. Say half of those people buy a new Ford. Excluding Ford's own legal fees (which are probably part of their normal overhead) and the discount itself (as usual), the marketing cost for those "disgruntled customers'" sales will cost Ford just $62.50 each. Given the money to be made on trade-ins and re-financing… Call me crazy, but this class action lawsuit thing sounds a genuine business opportunity


:lol WOW!



http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/ford-settles-explorer-lawsuit-owners-get-discount-lawyers-25m/


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Re: LOL, Talk about a real Scam
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2008, 01:17:53 AM »
When life hands you lemons, make lemonade.

LAWLZ, what an awesome pun.
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Re: LOL, Talk about a real Scam
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2008, 08:02:06 AM »
What you see above can only be described by one word, owned.


But it really kind of sucked for these people. Like 250 people were killed and 3,000 were hurt.
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Goto Google and type in "French military victories", then hit "I'm feeling lucky".
Here lie these men on this sun scoured atoll,
The wind for their watcher, the wave for their shroud,
Where palm and pandanus shall whisper forever,
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Re: LOL, Talk about a real Scam
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2008, 08:03:01 AM »
i am confused , you blow a tire so you sue the car company? why not sue the tire company?

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Re: LOL, Talk about a real Scam
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2008, 08:04:57 AM »
i am confused , you blow a tire so you sue the car company? why not sue the tire company?

Because Ford had put the wrong tire pressure in the cars. Tires were perfectly fine.
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Goto Google and type in "French military victories", then hit "I'm feeling lucky".
Here lie these men on this sun scoured atoll,
The wind for their watcher, the wave for their shroud,
Where palm and pandanus shall whisper forever,
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Re: LOL, Talk about a real Scam
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2008, 08:33:13 AM »
Because Ford had put the wrong tire pressure in the cars. Tires were perfectly fine.
???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firestone_and_Ford_tire_controversy
Many outside observers tend towards blaming both parties; Firestone's tires being prone to tread separation and failure, and the SUVs being especially prone to rolling over if a tire fails at speed compared to other vehicles. A subsequent NHTSA investigation of real world accident data showed that the SUVs in question were no more likely to roll over than any other SUV.
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Re: LOL, Talk about a real Scam
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2008, 08:52:24 AM »
i am confused , you blow a tire so you sue the car company? why not sue the tire company?

because it wasn't firestone's fault.

ford had a problem with the ride of the exploder....it wasn't "cushy" enough for soccer moms. they decided it was due to the tires. they mandated a lower pressure than firestone did, which was lower than was safe. this gave a better ride, but now the tires were flexing way too much, and couldn't dissipate the heat generated by high speed driving. this combination caused the tires to seperate, and blow out.

 i'm sure that the lawyers that handled this "shotgunned" and sued everyone that could've remotly had a possibility of being at fault.
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Re: LOL, Talk about a real Scam
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2008, 08:55:10 AM »
???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firestone_and_Ford_tire_controversy
Many outside observers tend towards blaming both parties; Firestone's tires being prone to tread separation

firestone tires were not prone to tread seperation any more than goodyears or BFG. they seperated due to the unsafely low tire pressure mandated for these vehicles by ford.
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Re: LOL, Talk about a real Scam
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2008, 09:10:47 AM »
firestone tires were not prone to tread seperation any more than goodyears or BFG. they seperated due to the unsafely low tire pressure mandated for these vehicles by ford.
I've found sources saying that the NHTSA tests were done at the 32 PSI, not the actual 26 PSI Ford said to use, but I cannot find sources where tests were done at 26 PSI by another agency and their conclusions.

The PDF file in the Wikipedia article is broke that lead to the NHTSA report.
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Re: LOL, Talk about a real Scam
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2008, 11:27:29 AM »
i have worked at new car dealerships for the past 40 years, all car mfg "recommend' lower pressure to give a better ride, when i prepped a new car or serviced a car i set the press above the mfg recommened at what i knew what was the right pressure.

of course the owners never check their tire pressures, most don't even read the owners manual.

but you can't sue the owners or auto techs because they don't have any money.

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Re: LOL, Talk about a real Scam
« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2008, 11:31:21 AM »
i have worked at new car dealerships for the past 40 years, all car mfg "recommend' lower pressure to give a better ride, when i prepped a new car or serviced a car i set the press above the mfg recommened at what i knew what was the right pressure.

of course the owners never check their tire pressures, most don't even read the owners manual.

but you can't sue the owners or auto techs because they don't have any money.

i've always checked tire pressures as part of my service.

i set most cars to 35psi......light trucks the same.

 my personal truck is set to 40psi all around. it gives me almost 2mpg more. i tried that on my geo, and almost lost a couple fillings.
 my fairmont is 40 in the front, and 20 in the rear(nitto drag radials)
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Re: LOL, Talk about a real Scam
« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2008, 01:52:27 PM »
Most people don't even know how to check the date stamp on thier tires much less the pressure.  Is this surprising?  No, it gets into their Starbuck's time.
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Re: LOL, Talk about a real Scam
« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2008, 02:02:03 PM »
Eh, my dad used to be a mechanic, he always checks the tire pressures before he goes to work. (Just to be safe)


Most idiots dont even know how to plug a hole in their tires. A friend of mine, his parents would just buy a new tire any time there was a hole in it. Now, I fix em up for 10$$ for each plug. :rofl
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Re: LOL, Talk about a real Scam
« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2008, 02:07:49 PM »
Eh, my dad used to be a mechanic, he always checks the tire pressures before he goes to work. (Just to be safe)


Most idiots dont even know how to plug a hole in their tires. A friend of mine, his parents would just buy a new tire any time there was a hole in it. Now, I fix em up for 10$$ for each plug. :rofl

well, i wouldn't call em idiots. it's not their job to know how to plug a tire.

the only knowledge i expect to see is that the driver can check and add their own oil, keep tires some semblence of properly inflated, and not run out of gas.....ooo.....and coolant topped off. that should be basic knowledge to drive.

 other than that, if you want to know how to do it, more power to ya. if not, at least ya know some basics.
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Re: LOL, Talk about a real Scam
« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2008, 02:08:34 PM »
other than that, if you want to know how to do it, more power to ya. if not, at least ya know some basics.


More money too :D
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Goto Google and type in "French military victories", then hit "I'm feeling lucky".
Here lie these men on this sun scoured atoll,
The wind for their watcher, the wave for their shroud,
Where palm and pandanus shall whisper forever,
A requiem fitting for heroes