More US/UK tanks

[wulfie]

and has a 76mm cannon that is on par with the British 17lb cannon

The MA of the M10 and M18 are not 'on par' with the 17 Pdr. of the Firefly. Their AP performance is definitely inferior. APCR for the MA of the M18 and M10 is very good however.

The T-34 is 'close enough' in terms of MA performance and armor protection to 'sub' for a 75mm MA Sherman in historical events.

The M10 was by far the most common US TD of WW2. The M18 showed up in operational units fairly late in the war.

Mike/Wulfie

[SmokinLoon]

The MA of the M10 and M18 are not 'on par' with the 17 Pdr. of the Firefly. Their AP performance is definitely inferior. APCR for the MA of the M18 and M10 is very good however.

The T-34 is 'close enough' in terms of MA performance and armor protection to 'sub' for a 75mm MA Sherman in historical events.

The M10 was by far the most common US TD of WW2. The M18 showed up in operational units fairly late in the war.

Mike/Wulfie

Ah yes.  I was looking at the stats for the US 76mm APCR/HVAP and not the standard AP rounds when mentioning the "on par" performance vs the 17lbr, which one can only assume they will be included if either the M10 or M18 is introduced just as the HVAP is in the T34.

Oh... and just because the M10 was produced more abundantly in WWII doesnt mean it is a better fit in AH2.  The gaps in the current line up provide a better avenue for intorducing the M18 vs the M10.  The high speed/light armor and very vulnerable to air attacks/effective cannon of the M18 would be a better fit than a slow moving/low armor (but better than M18) and very vulnerable to air attacks/effective cannon package of the M10.  My opinions of course.

[bigrich]

may i point out that the churchill is the churchill croc(crocodile) tank used to clear enemies out of bunkers and foxholes while still being able to use its regular 6 pounder gun unlike the sherman croc wich only has a flamethrower. The churchill MK IV was used with infantry support to destroy fortified emplacements and move with the infantry....so basically it's slow as hell...pardon my language. The 6 pounder was not that good against armor but the only that could even penetrate its thick armor was the 88mm flak gun....   

[NEARY]

But we do need some Jap tanks, and for america at least a M4 Sherman and M10 or M18.

i thought that the japenese saw no use in tanks since it was island action and tanks were hard to transport.
plus if they did then they didn't produce them in numbers large enough for much use.


italy and japan didn't produce many tanks,italy relied on germany for armor, and the japanese saw no use.

[Karnak]

Japanese tanks would not be competitive at all with the European tanks we have in AH.  They were actually fairly competitive with the light tanks we used in the Pacific.

The largest tank offensive in the Pacific Theater was a Japanese counter push on one of the islands, though I don't recall which.

[E25280]

Japanese tanks would not be competitive at all with the European tanks we have in AH.  They were actually fairly competitive with the light tanks we used in the Pacific.

The largest tank offensive in the Pacific Theater was a Japanese counter push on one of the islands, though I don't recall which.

I believe you are thinking of Saipan.

Japanese tanks were also involved in the initial conquest of the Philippines.  They were encountered on Guadalcanal, Iwo Jima, Okinawa, and most other major battles.

The US used the Shermans quite extensively in the Pacific, which outclassed the Japanese armor in almost every respect.

[Karnak]

The US used the Shermans quite extensively in the Pacific, which outclassed the Japanese armor in almost every respect.

Yes, the Sherman did, but I understood we mostly used light tanks due to the terrain we were fighting on/in.

[Hazzer]

 The Stuart?

 How did they compare with Japanese tanks

 

 The Japanese tank would be a Kamikaze machine in Aces High.

[Nilsen]

The Sd.Kfz. 234/2 "Puma" would be fun. Fairly close to the M8 so it would prolly see alot of use 

Think it was rated as one of the best armored cars of the war.

[E25280]

Yes, the Sherman did, but I understood we mostly used light tanks due to the terrain we were fighting on/in.

I've been trying to find reference sources, but sadly my search skills (and patience levels) are lacking.  I was hoping to find a simple chart of some kind that listed the typical number of both medium and light tanks attached to typical US infantry and Marine divisions.  Here is an example of a passing reference that says "Accompanying the 18 M4A2 Shermans was 1st platoon, Company A with five M5A1 light tanks."  I have no idea whether that type of ratio was typical.

[TIMMY]

i personally would like to see more early war tanks
and maybe same models with variation so each tank had its specific duties.
For example we are getting the t34 85
how about the same type of thing for the sherman and panzer
as a alternative to the P4H have also a P4E/F version with the short barreled 75MM  ( L40 i think)
this would be a better town killer cause it was a howitzer and not an AP gun that fired HE.
The sherman M4A3 or even the Cast hull M4A1/2 to support the firefly ( one of the most produced tanks of the war)
this would be easy to implement cause half of the modeling is already done
We seem to have a lot of slower MBT's than say cruiser tanks
i would really enjoy scooting around in a crusader MK3 in flanking attacks (What they were designed for) Even MK1 with the 2 pounder( this may not be reasonable for MA play due to these guns not having HE capability now i think about it )

If a TD was implemented IMHO  the stug series should get a strong  mention ( i know alot of these were actually classed as an assault gun)
but there were many built and they were a very effective weapon (these would be an ideal target for the faster cruiser tanks)

 a perked option could be the m36 jackson with the 90MM (btw was it this or the m10 that had the open turret? i have heard many conflicting stories )

[angelsandair]

But we do need some Jap tanks, and for america at least a M4 Sherman and M10 or M18.

Jap tanks? You mean slow moving paper shapes right? Where only Dr7 or an idiot (maybe both) would fly it and only 1 could do it sucessfully. 

[MiloMorai]

a perked option could be the m36 jackson with the 90MM (btw was it this or the m10 that had the open turret? i have heard many conflicting stories )

The M10, M18 and M36 all had open turrets. The M36B2 had overhead protection.

M36


M36B2


M18


M10

[TIMMY]

Thank you

i couldn't get a straight answer even after 15 mins of google

what would be an interesting addition would be more amphibous vehicles

for example 
the duck, DD sherman  or evern the schwimwagen

[Yarbles]

i would really enjoy scooting around in a crusader MK3 in flanking attacks (What they were designed for) Even MK1 with the 2 pounder( this may not be reasonable for MA play due to these guns not having HE capability now i think about it )

I think we should decide the firefly is a US tank and have the cromwell.

Ok its got a suspect basic 75mm gun but 40mph makes it a British Cruiser tank. The power of the basic gun is offsett by being able to get in close using speed. We have had tank kills in the M8. The Cromwell would give us something that would make the Tank battle more fluid with flanking manouvres and the need to get up close. 

The US tank destroyers are too vulnerable from the air and we have enough German and Soviet tanks for now. Japanese Tanks would be a waste of time.

BTW the Brits used the Grant/Lee to great effect in Burma see "The Admin Box".